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[annemehr]

No: HPFGUIDX 93643

> Sue wrote in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGr
> ownups/message/91762 :
> 
> << In losing Lilly and James (and Peter too, to a certain extent)
> Sirius had lost his entire family. He had already lost his first
> family because he did not share their beleifs and now he had lost
> everyone else. >>

Catlady:
> Except Remus.

Annemehr:
Perhaps Sirius felt as if he had lost Remus because he'd failed him --
he had wrongly suspected him of being the spy.

 
> John Bowman wrote in
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/92520 :
>[Re the World Book Day chat] 
> << JKR is referring to Hermione's patronus form. Or is she? Could she
> have let slip that Hermione is also an Animagus? The question was
> asked about Animagi not Patroni (presuming these are their plural
> forms). Could JKR mess up like that on purpose? >>

Catlady: 
> I don't think JKR was hinting that Hermione is an Animagus. I think
> she simply takes it for granted that the form of a person's Patronus
> is the same form that would take as an Animagus.
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Annemehr:
Actually, I think it's neither.  Since JKR's already said none of the
Trio will become animagi, I just think she used her own favorite
animal for Hermione's Patronus instead.  Since she'd discussed her
favorite animagus form at least twice before in earlier chats, and to
save time, and because she was probably trying to answer quickly, she
probably just replied that we've seen her favorite animagus form
already as Hermione's Patronus, only it didn't come out as clearly. 
After all, look how unclear I've been, and I took my time! ;-)

Catlady: 
> However, given an Animagus becomes the same creature as hiser
> Patronus, it would be wise for anyone to learn the Patronus spell
> before embarking on the difficult project of learning the Animagus
> spell, because that way they would find out whether the end product is
> worth the effort. That would solve my concern about what if a person's
> Animagus form were some kind of fish --- if they didn't know what the
> form would be until they first turned into it, their success would be
> to immediately drown in air, since they hadn't known to practise
> beside a pond or ocean.

Annemehr:
You know, I hope we do eventually find out both the animagus form and
the Patronus for a single person; personally, I don't think they will
be the same.  But don't worry about the ones who turn out to be fish
-- they don't drown immediately in air (I guess you've never seen
anyone catch a fish!), so they would have ample time to change back
and start cursing about the useless form their animagus takes!

Annemehr