Underage Magic during war & at the MoM

Arya dequardo at waisman.wisc.edu
Mon Mar 22 23:14:45 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 93685

<justcarol67 at y...> wrote:

> I agree, more or less, <<SNIPPED STUFF ABOUT UAM MONITORING>> but 
would like to add that IMO it's the place that's monitored, not the 
person, and that the MoM doesn't necessarily know who performed the 
magic: Note: "a hover charm *was performed*" in CoS. They don't know 
for sure who performed the charm but they assume that it was Harry 
because he's the only magical person in that neighborhood whose 
existence they're aware of. (They don't even know about the Squib 
neighbor, Mrs. Figg, and certainly don't know about Mark Evans if 
Mark is indeed magical.) The Patronus charm is also (correctly) 
assumed to be Harry, only this time they don't bother to use the 
passive voice because they're so eager to get Harry expelled, but 
still, I'm pretty sure it's an assumption based on their awareness
(or presumption) that no one else in the neighborhood could have cast 
the spell.
> 
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Then how would you explain how Tonks was able to use 'Scourgify' to 
clean Hedwig's cage and 'Pack!' to help Harry pack his trunk?  Moody 
also used the Disillusionment Charm on Harry in Privet Drive before 
they left.  And what's the point of the Order hanging around and 
watching Harry if they happen to use magic to defend him and it only 
results in Harry getting blamed for doing magic?  Wouldn't it be too 
easy for Volde to send over any idiot (DE or Imperio or other idiot) 
to just perform random magic around Privet Drive just to get Harry in 
trouble because he's supposedly the only wizard around?

I think I have to disagree.  There's more to it than just monitoring 
an area.  I also think there's something more complex to the 
monitoring because it knows when the magic is done before a muggle.  
IIRC in CoS, it mentions the business deal people Vernon had over for 
dinner as being witnesses to the Hover Charm.  In OotP it also says 
the Patronus Charm is done in front of a muggle (Dudley--who I don't 
think should count because duh--he obviously knows Harry is a wizard!)

I'm not sure how the monitoring works--it can't just be that they can 
monitor for ANY one person totally becasue that would make it all too 
easy to track escaped criminals (Sirius casts spells in the Shack in 
PoA and isdoing all sorts of spells in OotP)  Perhaps it's the 
wand??  When Harry goes to the MoM, they weight his wand and that's 
all the "ID" check thingy they do....does Ollivander register the 
wands and is that how *spells* are monitored?  But that still doesn't 
explain the Dobby Hover Charm...but I do think Dobby may be able to 
fake how a spell looks to fool the MoM's monitors...he's tricky elf.  
No answers and no hard theories...just more to ponder...

Arya







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