Just a question....

[tub_of_earwax]

No: HPFGUIDX 93698

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "angygarcia" <angelgava at h...> 
wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Geoff Bannister" 
> <gbannister10 at a...> wrote:
> > --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "allies426" 
<AllieS426 at a...> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Allie:
> > > I had mentioned this discussion to my sister before we saw one 
of 
> > > the Lord of the Rings movies.  She had never read the Rings 
books, 
> > > and I was telling her about the Wormtail/Wormtongue 
comparison, and 
> > > she was shocked when we finally met Wormtongue.  "What, while 
she 
> > > was writing the books, she said, 'I think I will call him... 
Worm-
> > > tail.' "
> > > 
> > > :)  Just another similarity.
> > 
> > Geoff:
> > Many moons ago, back about the 82500-82600 series of messages, I 
> > commented on similarities between Wormtail and Wormtongue and 
also 
> > drew parallels between Peter Pettigrew and Gollum.
> 
> 
> Angy:
> Besides J.K. Rowling sustains that her books aren't afected by the 
> influence of the J.R.R. Tolkien books, I'm agree that there are 
> strong simillarities between the two stories. How about the 
Nazgul? 
> these nasty creatures are mentioned not only in the HP books as 
> Dementors, but also in the new "Eragon" book as Ra'zac.


Now Me:
JKR has said that the Lord of the Rings trilogy has not affected her 
writing, and btw she didn't even like them that much. I do see what 
you all are saying, especially with Wormtongue/Wormtail, although 
that can be a coincidence as a rat is, well obvious symbolism and 
many evil overlords have minions like that in many stories. 

But I do not see the parallel with the Nazgul and the Dementors. The 
Nazgul are not seperate creatures, but they are "the damned" if you 
will. They are not alive, nor dead and they are forever searching 
for the ring. The Demenotrs on the other hand are a seperate 
creature, like dogs and cats only much more dangerous and scary, and 
you know, magical. We do not know whether they are dead or alive or 
the non-dead, but all evidence points to them being part of the 
beast division at the MoM (and not the spirit one). It would be 
mentioned, I would say in FB. They are not looking for a certain 
something, like the ring, but for people they can feed on. They are 
driven by lust, not greed. When the Nazgul hurt you, you become one 
of them, when Dementors kiss you, you become a vegetable. At first 
site they seem alike, but they are not. 

Just my two knuts. 

*Lara*.