[HPforGrownups] Re: Lupin's resentment : An inside to Snape's resentment

[Silverthorne]

No: HPFGUIDX 94103


{Kneasy:}
They've got it wrong -  we're having the time of our lives and it's none of
their damn business how I or you or him next door conduct our lives.
Just because Snape acts like a wolverine does not necessarily indicate
unhappiness. Even wolverines can be happy.


{Silverthorne:}
And Wolverines also have thier own form of love (mostly to do with being
solitary and perhaps one mate they can tolerate just long enough to make
more wolverines with, but hey...:P). We are in agreement, whether you care
to admit it or not. ^^ I don't demand that Snape change, I demand that other
people take a good hard look at why he is the way he is and then realize
that what they hate so much in him is reflected in the other, more popular
characters in many ways. Therefore they might want to reconsider *why* they
find it so abhorent in him and not the others...and usually, if they're
taking an *honest* look, they'll find its because they can overlook those
same faults in the other characters because they 'understand them better' or
'relate to them better'. In other words, the packaging is far more
attractive to them, so they're more willing to give benefit of the doubt.
Pretty one sided, especially for a generation and society that is priding
itself on becoming more 'advanced' in its treatment of its fellow human
beings.


{Kneasy:}
Nah. He'd got the wrong idea - he thought money was all that mattered in
life. Everything he did was predicated by thoughts of cash. Now if at the
end when he threw those coins to the boy in the street, he'd heated them to
red heat first, then we could all have had a good laugh to end on.

{Silverthorne:}
*snort!*


{Kneasy:}
Oh, dear. Snape is set up as an archetype. Affection is  irrelevent to his
character as presented by JKR. He is intended as a boo!hiss! figure, and
he's a well drawn one. To complain that he's an ass is to take a
sledge-hammer to miss a nut. He's the pantomime villain, the equivalent of
the moustache twirling rack-rent landlord "Father, Father, how can you be so
cruel?" "Practice, m'dear, practice!"


{Silverthorne}
I'm not complaining about him being an ass, I just beleive there's more to
him than his villianous ways, as you would put it. ;). I have no doubt he
will never be one of the characters meant to be 'liked'...whatever happens
to him will have most of the audience probably relieved because he will be
*gone*, no matter what removes him from play.

{Kneasy}
I like him like that. Now I've posted before on *why* I think he's like
that, and it's a very tragic tale (Sob). But frankly, to foist onto him the
well- meaning but totally incongruous and misplaced concept of affection as
the solution that can provide comfort and/or redemption boggles my mind. And
I don't boggle easily.

{Silverthorne}
Er....I already think he is capable and does have those feelings--they won't
come later as a result of some sudden and tragic wake up call, so I don't
consider it a 'solution' to his 'problem'. We may never see the 'more
postive' feelings he has, but they're there. Probably locked carefully away
to keep well meaning idiots from trying to pry them out where they can get
trampled underfoot. Again.

{Kneasy}
He's driven by revenge. Aha! Revenge is sweet! Revenge is warm and
comforting! Revenge is satisfying! There will be those that raise their
hands in horror - Stop! Consider, it is better to forgive!" Cobblers.
Revenge is one of the great literary motivations, from Classical Greek
theatre, through Shakespeare down to lowest Hollywood. Snape is bent on
getting his; everything else is secondary -  and it'll probably be the death
of him.

{Silverthorne}
Revenge is also outdated and overused...lol...and he would be sharing the
stage with Voldemort if that's his excuse...(Who wants revenge AND power).
Share the stage? Good god, Severus should know better. If he's going to
shine as the villian, he should at least get his own schtick!

Also, revenge is best served cold--and after some of Snape's outbursts,
'cold' is not a word I would use to describe him. ^^So it would be a pretty
sorry revenge, I would think.

{Kneasy}
Then all the fans can gather at conventions and discuss his fascinating but
flawed character. So who in the books is perfect, that they should criticise
Sevvy posthumously? That is injury enough, but  to wish that he has a loving
side - Ugh!

It's  the equivalent of adding whipped cream to a good beer.

{Silverthorne}

Then I hope you enjoy the whip cream I sent you!

*grins madly*

Anne