The Twins' Bet (Was: Ron=DD?)

[drjuliehoward]

No: HPFGUIDX 94364

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" 
<justcarol67 at y...> wrote:
> Kathy King wrote:
>  They had apparently, already used a type of time-turner method in 
GoF 
> > when they made the bet with Bagman. (They new the exact outcome 
of the 
> > International Quidditch game)
> >
> 
> I see no need to assume that the twins used a time turner here.
> Apparently such devices are rare and require special permission. 
All
> the twins needed to do was to use their considerable intelligence 
in
> looking at two facts in relation to the nature of the game: The 
Irish
> had the best *team* in the world, but Bulgaria had the best Seeker.
> Note that *Ron* wore a hat and rosette supporting Ireland but 
bought a
> miniature figure of Krum. The twins took this awareness a bit 
farther.
> It was very likely that Krum would outmaneuver the Irish seeker and
> catch the Snitch, but the Snitch is hard to spot and usually is not
> caught until well into the game. The excellent Irish team would 
have
> plenty of time to score while Viktor was either watching for the
> Snitch or diverting the other seeker with feints. It really wasn't
> that hard to figure out. No need for a time turner; just good 
betting
> instincts and a knowledge of quidditch.
> 
> Carol

Julie here:
I know this was discussed in earlier posts, and while agree with 
Carol that the twins could have used thei knowledge of the game, 
etc., I do not rule anything out with JKR.  I'm not saying that they 
used a time turner, I'm just asking *what* was significant about 
that scene?  Was it that they knew the outcome, thus leading us to 
ask, "How?"  Or, was it that Bagman did not pay up, thus introducing 
another element to his character?  

Julie -- who appreciates the email about the hatrack comment