Is Hermione Supposed to be a Genius?
delwynmarch
delwynmarch at yahoo.com
Tue Mar 30 10:12:34 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 94490
Robert Jones wrote:
> They also make Hermione out to be a genius. And I want to object
> to that now. Hermione is definitely the best student in school,
> but I think it is just a matter of her "bookish" interests, not
> that she is the greatest witch of her generation.
Del :
You're making a classic mistake : opposing cleverness to study. Just
because you love to study doesn't mean you don't have a big IQ.
Robert :
> Maybe all the magic stuff came naturally to James and Sirius,
Del :
Not so naturally, no. They had to *study* for *3 years* before they
got the Animagus charm down.
Robert :
> but Hermione studies all the time and is always running off to the
> library whenever there is a question.
Del :
She goes to the library because she's clever enough to figure out
that maybe someone else has the answer to her question so she
doesn't have to reinvent the wheel each time she's got a problem !
Robert :
> But that does not mean she has a particularly great IQ or
> magical IQ it is just how she handles things.
>
> She just likes school and learning. In POA, she was jealous of
> Ron's vacation in Egypt because of what she could have learned
> there
Del :
What makes you think that she meant *only* theoretical stuff ? She
might very well have been looking forward to learning practical
stuff as well.
Robert :
> and rewriting her essay from what she learned in France. And she
> took every class in Book 3 and nearly studied herself to death.
>
> And it doesn't mean she is necessarily that great at "practical"
> magic.
Del :
We mustn't be reading the same books.
1. Hermione is constantly using charms to make her and her friends'
life easier (making the snow melt, making Harry's glasses repel
water, etc...).
2. She's not just *reading* those damn books, she's actually
*applying* what she learns in them. And she's done that right from
the beginning : in PS/SS, on the Hogwarts Express ride to school,
she says she tried a few spells she found in the school books.
3. Everyone agrees that the spell she put on the Galleons she gives
to the DA members is a very advanced spell, NEWT level. And what
about the jinx she put on Marrietta ? It was so powerful that
Marrietta had to keep it for days, because nobody could figure out
how to cure her.
4. She's doing so well in Flitwick's and McGonagall's classes that
Harry actually has fun comparing his and Ron's results with
Hermione's. Remember the very first time this happened, the
whole "Wingardium Leviosa" matter : she got it right the very first
time.
5. She's Harry's *trainer* for the TWT ! They look up charms and
jinxes in books, she learns them, and then she teaches them to Harry.
Robert :
> She certainly has advanced since the end of Book 1 where she
> did not know what to do about the Devil's Snare until Harry told
> her
Del:
You're mixing up 2 very different things : knowing how to do
something, and thinking of doing it when needed. I know that I must
not brake when driving on the ice, but I still do it. I lose my
nerve and my head, and so does Hermione.
Robert :
> and she dismissed her own school work as "books!"
> and "cleverness."
Del :
She's trying to explain to Harry that what they need to learn from
him is how to keep cool in the face of danger and how to react fast
and accurately. And she's right to say that she can't learn that in
books.
Moreover, I always had a problem with Hermione belonging to the DA.
As far as I can remember, the *only* charm Harry knows and Hermione
doesn't is the Patronus Charm. Everything else, she already knows,
since she *taught* them to him !
Robert :
> (Incidentally, studies of valedictorians in the USA show that they
> do not do any better after school either in business or socially
> than others they just could "do school" well.)
Del :
That's precisely what Hermione is trying to learn from Harry : how
to make good use of everything she knows (theoretical and practical)
in tense, stressful situations.
Robert :
> But that does not mean she is a genius. And she did make two big
> mistakes in OOTP : the hats she is knitting can't free the House
> Elves and she left the DA list in the Room of Requirement for
> Umbridge to find. (I've discussed those in other posts.)
Del :
Concerning the hats, she's letting her emotions get the best of her
reasoning. Nobody ever said that geniuses can't be blinded by their
emotions. That would be the Vulcan view of geniuses, not the human
one.
As for the DA list, I believe it wouldn't have changed anything even
if she had taken it with her : Umbridge *needed* that list, so it
showed up in the RoR, that's perfectly logical, and Hermione
couldn't have done anything against that.
Robert :
> I think JKR said it best in an interview in Time magazine a couple
> of years ago: "Hermione is me, near enough. A caricature of me
> when I was younger. I wasn't that clever. But I was that
> annoying on occasion.
Del :
Re-read the last 2 sentences. To me they clearly mean : "I wasn't as
clever as Hermione, but I was as annoying." So unless I say JKR is
dumb, I can't say Hermione isn't very intelligent.
Robert :
> Girls are very tolerant of her because she is not an
> uncommon female type the little girl who feels plain and hugely
> compensates by working very hard and wanting to get everything
> just so."
Del :
Once again : working hard is not opposite to being a genius. In
fact, being a genius who doesn't work won't get you far. But being a
genius who works hard can turn you into a very powerful witch/wizard
indeed.
By the way, do you think that Tom Riddle, who was a genius and a
very powerful wizard, didn't work hard to become LV ? Wrong. He says
so himself : he had to immerse himself in the study of the Dark Arts
for years.
I do think that Hermione is very very intelligent (call that a
genius if you want), and I applaud her for not taking the easy route
(getting good enough marks just because she's smart), but rather
apply those brains to study. They are at school after all, aren't
they ?
Del
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