The Problem with Lupin (long) was Re: How Close Are Harry and Lupin?
justcarol67
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Sun May 2 03:11:55 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 97481
> Naama:
> But the improbabilities I am referring are of a different kind.
> When Harry and Ron transformed to Crabbe and Goyle, they kept
> their ownpersonalities. Therefore, regardless of the magical
> transformation part, it's highly improbable that in ten months DD
> wouldn't sensethat his old friend Moody has had a personality
> transplant.
>
> Pippin:
> Voldemort had one high-functioning paranoid impersonate
> another. There is something scarily plausible about that, like a
> science fiction story where Hitler wakes up in Stalin's body.
> There's only so many ways a person can be disfunctional.
> Dumbledore would have perceived that Moody was acting
> strange, but not stranger than usual.
Carol <snipping the rest of the post>:
Also Crouch!Moody had the real Moody under an Imperius Curse and by
his own admission questioned him thoroughly about his habits and
history so he could impersonate him convincingly. Also he quite
felicitously shared Moody's dislikes, so he could antagonize Snape
without being suspected--or so he must have assumed. That magical eye
helped, too, because it made everyone too nervous to spend much time
with him or to look him in the face. As for Dumbledore, he probably
spent very little time with any of the teachers except at meals, when
Crouch!Moody was drinking from his hip flask exactly as the real Moody
would have done.
As I've said before, I do think that bits and pieces of evidence--all
of it presumably reported to him by others, including Snape and the
portraits--created suspicions in DD's mind long before the Tri-Wizard
Tournament. Incidents like turning Draco into a ferret and Imperioing
the students would have come to his attention in some way, and I think
he would have wondered at that point what was wrong with Moody (as
opposed to suspecting that someone was impersonating him).
As someone else noted, the Pensieve scene suggests that DD was
exploring links between Crouch and Moody even before the disappearance
of Mr. Crouch--at which point, IMO, "Moody's" too-speedy arrival on
the scene may have aroused DD's suspicions even more, especially if
Snape denied sending him into the forest. Nevertheless, I think that
Dumbledore is slow to accuse and his sense of fairness (innocent until
proven guilty) would have kept him from speaking openly until
Crouch!Moody's actions at the Tri-Wizard Tournament made his guilt
undeniable. Rather than *suddenly* figuring out exactly what happened
(which struck me as unrealistic the first time I read the book), he
must have been thinking about it all along, and at that point the last
piece of the puzzle slipped into place--he knew who "Moody" was--which
is why he had no hesitation about asking Snape to fetch Winky.
Carol
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