3Q's for ESE!Lupin(now Like Me Lupin)
Susan
teilani2002 at yahoo.com
Tue May 4 14:30:02 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 97660
Olivier:
> As I understand it, the last version of ESE!Lupin holds that
Lupin has a pathological need to be liked, regardless of his
actions. That was supposedly his motive of him not telling
Dumbledor. In other words, Lupin is thinking "Oh please, DD
like me, I'm good, oh you don't like me enough, I turn to LV." Is
that correct?<
Pippin:
Not exactly. It'd be more like, "If Dumbledore knew what a bad
person I am, he wouldn't like me. Nobody who knew what a bad
person I am could like me. Good people only like me because
they don't know what I'm really like. I deserve to be hated
because I am a Dark Creature. I can't control my evil impulses
because I'm a Dark Creature. But Dark Creatures could like me
for what I really am."
Susan(me):
Where did the idea that Remus needs to be liked come from? I could
see someone describing PP like this, but not Lupin. Look at who his
best friends are. James Potter, who's arrogant, talented, good-
looking, and confident. Sirius Black, who's arrogant, talented, good-
looking, and confident. Then PP, who's what? Needy, scrawny,
cowardly, and hangs around with JP, SB, and RL more (IMHO) for
protection from bullies and the like than anything else. He's seen
near the cool kids but isn't one. I mean, Lupin's supposed to be
smart and talented, just not as arrogant as JP and SB. Just because
he doesn't reprimand James and Sirius for screwing with SS doesn't
necessarily mean he's afraid to stand up to them, especially out of a
need to be liked. I remember being in situations in grade school and
high school where I could have stuck up for the little guy in front
of my friends, but I sometimes didn't. (And it's not something I'm
proud of, similar to Remus' regret that HE didn't stop SB and JP from
screwing with SS). Maybe part of Remus enjoyed watching SS being
teased. It's not like SS was very friendly/nice while a student.
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