3Q's for ESE!Lupin(now Like Me Lupin)

Susan teilani2002 at yahoo.com
Tue May 4 14:30:02 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 97660

Olivier:
> As I understand it, the last version of ESE!Lupin holds that
Lupin has a pathological need to be liked, regardless of his
actions. That was supposedly his motive of him not telling
Dumbledor. In other words, Lupin is thinking "Oh please, DD
like me, I'm good, oh you don't like me enough, I turn to LV." Is
that correct?<

Pippin:
Not exactly. It'd be more like, "If Dumbledore knew what a bad
person I am, he wouldn't like me. Nobody who knew what a bad
person I am could like me. Good people only like me because
they don't know what I'm really like. I deserve to be hated
because I am a Dark Creature. I can't control my evil impulses
because I'm a Dark Creature. But Dark Creatures could like me
for what I really am."

Susan(me):
Where did the idea that Remus needs to be liked come from?  I could 
see someone describing PP like this, but not Lupin.  Look at who his 
best friends are.  James Potter, who's arrogant, talented, good-
looking, and confident.  Sirius Black, who's arrogant, talented, good-
looking, and confident.  Then PP, who's what?  Needy, scrawny, 
cowardly, and hangs around with JP, SB, and RL more (IMHO) for 
protection from bullies and the like than anything else.  He's seen 
near the cool kids but isn't one. I mean, Lupin's supposed to be 
smart and talented, just not as arrogant as JP and SB.  Just because 
he doesn't reprimand James and Sirius for screwing with SS doesn't 
necessarily mean he's afraid to stand up to them, especially out of a 
need to be liked.  I remember being in situations in grade school and 
high school where I could have stuck up for the little guy in front 
of my friends, but I sometimes didn't.  (And it's not something I'm 
proud of, similar to Remus' regret that HE didn't stop SB and JP from 
screwing with SS).  Maybe part of Remus enjoyed watching SS being 
teased.  It's not like SS was very friendly/nice while a student. 






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