Over Kill with Dementors

cubfanbudwoman susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net
Tue May 11 03:07:36 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 98031

Heather says:
> > > One thing that I noticed is that Harry sees 'the Grim" (aka 
> Sirius  as the dog)in the stands just seconds before the 
> Dementors on the  pitch begin to affect him.  I 
> deduced that the Dementors actually came onto the pitch that 
> afternoon because they  had tracked Sirius there....<<
 
 
Siriusly Snapey Susan:
> > Except that I don't think the Dementors *could* track him there 
> if  he was in animagus form.  That's the reason he was able to 
> escape  from Azkaban in the first place--he said the Dementors 
> are much less  sensitive to the emotions of animals, and so 
> when he slipped by,  they were just confused.  I assume Sirius 
> has been hanging around  Hogwarts *only* in his animagus 
> form, so I don't think the Dementors  could have tracked him to 
> the stadium any more than they tracked him  into the Forbidden 
> Forest, where he'd been hiding.  The given  explanation--that they 
> were so "hungry" they couldn't resist the big  crowd--makes 
> sense to me.<

 
Pippin:
> But they track Sirius again at the end of PoA, when he's all by 
> himself.  I'm afraid this is all ESE!Lupin's work. I was thrilled 
> to discover, in OOP, that one can see the Quidditch pitch from the 
> DADA office. 
> 
> speculating:
> Transformed but with a human mind, ESE!Lupin spotted Sirius 
> at the match and summoned the Dementors. Since they were 
> concentrating their powers on Sirius, the other students weren't 
> much affected, except for Harry who is more than usually 
> sensitive.  We have canon that Dementors can concentrate their 
> powers more on one person than another: Fudge for example, 
> can bring one into the castle to deal with Crouch without being 
> overcome.


Siriusly Snapey Susan:
:-)  Pippin, you do have an incredible knack for finding canon 
support for your theories!  I'd remembered that Harry could see the 
Quidditch pitch from the DADA office, but I'd certainly never 
considered its implications for ESE!Lupin.  Not that I'm convinced, 
mind you, but you are one relentless evidence-gatherer!

Anyway, when you say the Dementors are tracking Sirius at the end of 
PoA, are you talking about the night all h*@# broke loose in the 
Shrieking Shack, when they would've kissed him if not for Harry's 
patronous?  Or do you mean after Sirius' escape on Buckbeak?  If the 
former, I wonder if the Dementors weren't tracking the ACTION in 
general...the presence of humans...and Sirius had been in human form 
at first when they came out from the Whomping Willow.  If you mean 
after his escape, do we know that the Dementors were having any 
success in tracking him?

Siriusly Snapey Susan...who just finished listening to PoA and who 
just still won't buy into ESE!Lupin but who appreciates Pippin's 
tenacity.






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