[HPforGrownups] Connection between books 2 and 5 - veil?

Miller, Gina (JIS) ginamiller at jis.nashville.org
Wed May 12 14:36:45 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 98140

Rebecca:
Did we ever come to a consensus on what the important bit from book 
2 was?

Because I just read this essay (someone at fictionalley posted the 
link) and it's interesting.  

If it's already been brought up, I apologize.  I did seach the 
archive, but I just searched the word "nick".

Anyway, this essay speculates that the black curtain in the death 
day party is the same as the veil in OOTP.

Here's a link:  http://harmony.portkey.org/theories/veilmystery.php
<http://harmony.portkey.org/theories/veilmystery.php> 
Rebecca (snip)
 
Gina replies: 
      Fascinating! My theory after reading this is not that the invitation
by Nick is important but rather the DATE! On Oct.31st (Nick's death date)
the area of Limbo was thinner so he had little time to think and he had
already died! When H/R/H came to the party it was Oct. 31st so it was colder
because it was thinner. 
 
      When Sirius went through he was NOT dead and though he was not invited
it was mid summer meaning the area of limbo was larger and not so thin. It
was not as cold in OOTP. 
 
      I say Sirius went through alive and thus did not have to decide
whether to live or die. He was alive just as R/H/H were alive. But maybe
being uninvited made it more difficult to leave or maybe he found someone he
needed to speak to first. He could have been forced to transform into
Snuffles in order to leave.
 
      I offer this as well just an idea - What if it is not the same veil?
Maybe the one in the MoM you can not get out, but the veil at Hogwarts is a
way back in? That would explain the large number of ghosts there. Are there
that many ghosts at any other single magical location? If it is the same
veil - I could see DD getting it there for the DD party, but I would come
closer to thinking it was a different one. I think anyone could walk in/out
of the veil if 1)they entered alive 2)they wanted to leave (live)
 
Gina - who believes fully that Sirius will return in the flesh!




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