ESE!Snape (Was loads of other stuff)

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Sat May 15 03:17:27 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 98404

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <teilani2002 at y...> 
wrote:
> Okay, if Snape's not ESE, then why did he stop teaching Harry 
> Occlumancy?  Considering all the posts regarding respect and the 
> military, he disobeyed a direct order from DD.  Furthermore, 
> regardless of whether Snape knew LV's plans regarding Harry and 
> merging his thoughts with Harry's, one of the people Snape hates 
the 
> most conveniently gets killed because Harry didn't block out LV.  
If 
> Snape had continued to teach Harry, then Sirius wouldn't have 
gotten 
> killed because the DA wouldn't have known to go to the DoM.
> 
> And yes, most posters seem to agree that Snape behaves very 
childishly, 
> like he's stuck on the things that have happened to him in the 
past.  
> But that's also a very convenient explanation, in a way.  He can 
hate 
> Harry outright, he can disobey a direct order from DD, get a member 
> of the Order killed (conveniently a member whom he really hates) 
get 
> several of the children he despises hurt in the process, and yet he 
> still has his job teaching, still seems to have DD's favor, and 
still 
> gets to behave like a self-absorbed teenager.  I'd personally like 
it 
> better if he didn't get redemption, but his just desserts instead.
> 
> Susan (who apologizes sincerely to all you out there who love 
> Snape ;-)



Oh,my... I can't believe myself. I am going to ... defend Snape. :o) 
(well, kind of).

Anybody who reads my posts knows that I am fascinated by Snape-Harry 
relationship in a way, which makes me criticise Snape really harshly.

To call his behaviour childish is a huge understatement, IMO.

I would call him a pathetic, sad human being, who from the victim of 
chidhood bullying transformed into bully himself and who in addition 
is allowed to abuse his authority as a teacher on a day to day basis.
I would say that emotionally he is still in his teens, etc., etc., 
etc. 


But I DON'T think that I really believe in ESE!Snape, even though OoP 
kinda made me doubt that. Again, this is metathinking, but I think 
that JRK spent too much time and effort on this character to allow 
him to turned out ESE in the end. Her bad guys are usually not very 
well developed.

I don't believe that Snape redeemed himself yet, far from it. Was it 
Neri who said that she sees Snape as a bad guy fighting for the good 
side? I agree with whoever said that. But I do believe that he will 
gain redemption in the end, whether he will survive or not. 

Having said all that, of course I want him to pay for his treatment 
of Harry and Neville and all Gryffs.
The best due for Snape will be to encounter another life debt to 
Harry or even better - to Neville. :o)

I also would like to say that I think we will be lead to believe that 
Snape will betray the Order, but that will turn out to be false in 
the end.

Alla





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