[HPforGrownups] Re: ESE!Snape (Was loads of other stuff)

[IAmLordCassandra at aol.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 98406

In a message dated 5/14/2004 8:48:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
patientx3 at aol.com writes:
HunterGreen:
How exactly? Obviously he's not going to find out from Snape's mind, 
because of the aforementioned Occulmency, and I don't see how he 
could find out from Harry either. We all know that Harry was getting 
glimpses of Voldemort's emotions/thoughts/plans etc., but does it 
work both ways? If it did, why did Voldemort not figure this out 
until the whole snake attacking Arthur incident?

Cassie: That was explained in the book.  Which I don't have on me (I need to 
stop being nice and lending my books out ><)  It says that Voldemort was 
unaware that Harry had any access to his thoughts/emotions until that Arthur 
incident, which was such an extreme violation of his thoughts/emotions that he 
couldn't help but notice.  After that he deduced he might be able to get into 
Harry's mind.  

That was the whole point of the Occlumency lesson, wasn't it?  To keep 
Voldemort from entering Harry's mind.  If he did have access to his thoughts and 
feelings he could see Harry's memory of an Occlumency lesson.  Maybe even see 
through Harry's eyes without Harry's knowledge. 
Harry has a piece of 
Voldemort in his head, that's the connnection, its never been shown 
that Voldemort has access to Harry the way Harry has access to him. 
This being the case, I'm not sure Occulmency would have done any 
good, even if Harry had actually worked at it. They were trying to 
teach Harry how to block the Legimens spell, which is not at all what 
Voldemort was doing.

Cassie: But remember, The "usual rules" don't seem to apply to Harry.  
Voldemort was able to access Harry's mind in the end.  The Occlumency lessons 
might've only been a percaution, but they were right about LV in the end (even if 
they failed in the end) 
First Harry was having glimpses into Voldemort's 
mind, then VD realized this and *planted* something there, but none 
of that allows him to look around in Harry's mind. (of course I could 
be wrong here, but that's the impression I got from GoF / OoP). 
-Also, remember that Snape said that the mind isn't like a book. If 
Voldemort performed his legimency on Harry, he might see bits of 
Snape teaching him something, but that wouldn't be odd or 
particularly interesting to Voldemort, seeing how teaching is Snape's 
*job*.
Cassie: Like I said above, if the connect works exactly the same both ways 
(which makes me wonder if Harry could plant things in LV's mind 0.0)  There is a 
chance that Voldemort could see through Harry's eyes without his knowledge.   

I think there is a quote where Dumbledore says he thought he saw a shadow of 
Voldemort stirring behind Harry's eyes.  And then there are those parts where 
Harry describes feeling as though a dormant snake were rising inside of him.  

Of course, we can't be sure.  

~Cassie~ 


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