Survivors (was: Why we SHIP (WAS: A different and totally serious Harry 'ship)

cubfanbudwoman susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net
Sat May 15 18:16:35 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 98435

Kneasy says:
I've never seen this quote before and it warms the cockles of my 
evil, dark, FEATHERBOA-bedecked heart.  Oh, happy day! Multiple 
deaths to come and  the likelihood that there will be significant 
characters among the fatalities. Oh, splendid!

Time to make a list:
DD for certain- he's not described as increasingly old and tired
for nothing. It's a foreshadowing.

SSSusan says: 
Yup, I think this one's a given.  I'll bet if we polled the group, 
we'd be at least 90% on this one.


Kneasy:
Weasleys - at least 3; why else are there so many of them in the
first place? A 30% casualty rate sounds reasonable. But which ones?
Hmm. Bill and the twins maybe?

antoshachekhonte added:
I think the Arthur and Molly--one or both--are the most likely 
casualties. Thematically, mythically, the death of the parents opens 
the opportunity for the children to assume their proper place.

SSSusan replies:
I think you're right, antoshachekhonte.  I don't like the thought of 
either Weasley parent dying, but I think it's likely, and your 
reasoning makes sense to me.  In all honesty, as much as I [don't 
throw tomatoes, please] adore Molly and appreciate Arthur, I'd 
rather see one of them bite it than have one of the twins or Ron or 
Ginny die.  


Kneasy:
Draco? Why not. Slimy little tosser. His dad's a survivor though.

SSSusan:
I'd rather see Lucius die than Draco.  I'm convinced that Lucius is 
in this ALL for himself, was in fact working to take the WW over 
himself `til Voldy returned, and that if somehow Voldy is gone at 
the end but Lucius is still with us, well, the WW will be in bad 
shape.  I vote for Lucius dying and Draco not.


Kneasy: 
Luna - it's her own fault, she shouldn't be so irritating.

SSSusan:
Woo hoo!!  I'm not the only one who finds her irritating.  


Kneasy thinks Harry will probably die. 

Antoshachekhonte suggested:
I don't think Harry will necessarily snuff it. I think that's a less 
interesting ending to the series than watching him actually 
contemplate life-after-Voldy.

SSSusan:
I don't think he will, either.  I'm still buying into the theory 
that Harry sacrifices his magical powers, possibly knowingly, but 
that he doesn't die.  Ask me again next week, though.


Kneasy:  
Peter - in a futile attempt to repay his life debt; incompetent as 
ever.

Antoshachekhonte:
I agree that Peter will buy it. But I rather think that his 
repayment of his life-debt will be a  keystone in Voldy's defeat. 

SSSusan:
I'm inclined to agree with both of you that Peter will die but with 
Anto that it will be an important death somehow in Harry's ability 
to get to Voldy.  


Kneasy:
Any other worthy candidates?

Antoshachekhonte: 
I don't think Neville's going to be killed, but it's possible. And 
you know that he's intimately wound up in the fulfillment of the 
prophecy somehow--else why the inclusion of his name in the first 
place?

SSSusan:
This is an interesting one to contemplate.  I could see Neville 
dying for the cause for sure
but that would obviously mean Neville 
wouldn't end up as Herbology professor at Hogwarts, as so many think 
he will be, working on a cure for his Mum & Dad.

As for Lupin, I do NOT think he'll die.  To have all four Marauders 
die by the end?  Would JKR do that to us??

What about Minerva?  Nobody's brought her up yet.  Will she be the 
new Headmistress?  

Siriusly Snapey Susan







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