Love & Snape (was love between Snape & Harry)

severelysigune severelysigune at yahoo.co.uk
Mon May 17 15:15:08 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 98592

Kneasy:
<<Nobody ever comes back with "Hoi! You said...,,but......">>

Sigune:
Ah. Well. Here is Sigune the Severe ready to make an attempt, however 
poor – I did read the posts you referred to, and I have a slight 
problem with the reasoning. OF COURSE I know you are going to wriggle 
your way out of it, but I just want to see you do it :).

I have – in case anyone doesn't know yet – a *huge* problem with the 
thought of Snape having any love relationship at all; which means I 
also have a problem with one of your pet theories, namely that of 
Snape having a family and that family being killed by Lord Thingy 
(seems I'm not allowed to say `Voldie' anymore, so I'll stick to 
Fudge's suggestion, which IMO is even better ;-).
Anyway – I entirely agree with your description of Snape in post 
98434:


Kneasy:
<<Snape is a category apart IMO. It all goes back to my ideas, as yet
unsubstantiated, of how he came to be what he is. We can agree
that Snape shows a measure of respect for DD, perhaps also for
McGonagall - and doesn't give a damn about anybody else. Not
only doesn't he give a damn about them, he doesn't care what
they think about him, either.>>

Sigune:
Whatever anyone can say about Snape, we have never seen him 
affectionate, amiable or kind. He styles himself (I believe in 
conscious styling on his part) an Evil Wizard – he looks the 
stereotype, doesn't he, and he could easily change that. He seems to 
deliberately keep people off. It seems like he *wants* to be 
disliked, while at the same time craving for recognition – 
recognition for his powers, his services, his cleverness, but never 
for his personality.
So, what I ask myself is how you would explain his even *thinking* 
about founding a family? Who could Snape love (not to mention: who 
could love Snape enough to set up house with him, because, as you 
pointed out in an earlier post, this is *not* Alan Rickman we are 
talking about)? Who would Snape share his life with? Who would he 
allow to get in the way of his busy potion-making, Death-Eating, 
success-seeking career? I know you'll say `Florence', but how or why? 
And all in such a hurry. If Snape is the man in the memories, as you 
suggest, he cannot have been older than twenty-one. All right, James 
was that young, too; but he was rich and didn't need to work if he 
didn't feel like it (dixit JKR), and for all we know he did not have 
Snape's ambition. In any case, as far as I know (but I admit my 
experience is rather limited), founding a family is not exactly the 
greatest boost for one's career as you have to invest lots of time, 
money and effort in it. Not to mention love and care. It is something 
you really have to *want*.
Loving and caring Snape, eager to have a wife and kiddies? Hmph.
(Yes, Potioncat, I greatly appreciate the running joke about the 
twins; but I put it in the same category as Carolyn's hilarious 
ending to book 7, with love bursting out of the mysterious ministry 
room and causing Snape to hug innocent bystanders – LOL).
No, JKR will never be able to make me swallow that.


Kneasy:

<<Yes, I did propose that Sevvy had a family - and that his wife
was Florence. And that the happy family were depicted in
the memory with the crying child with Snape, as usual, not
happy about something his darling help-meet has done or
not done. (Where's me dinner? You sit around all day watching
the Pensieve while I flog me guts out torturing Muggles, and
what do I get? No dinner!) And also that Voldy, directly or
indirectly caused their deaths, hence giving Snapey massive
motivation for becoming anti-Voldy (which is not quite the
same thing as pro-Order).>>


Sigune:
Couldn't resist quoting this bit – it's so delightful. But, as I 
said, I think it sort of jars with your overall characterisation of 
Snape. You can't say it is the before/after effect, after scolding 
other listees for being too romantic :)... In any case I would find 
it hard to believe Snape started a vendetta against Voldemort because 
now he has to cook his own dinner. But I may be wrong of course. Who 
can fathom the depths of the Potions Master's mind? ;)


Kneasy:
<< Snape probably sits alone in his dungeon room, muttering and
sticking pins in his Voldy Action Doll (It walks! It talks! It shoots
out green rays! Amaze your friends!) dreaming dreams. Sorry,
Sevvy old lad, you ain't gonna make it. Not to the end of book 7
you're not. Shame really.>>


Sigune:

As to that, even the idea of the Voldy Action Doll unfortunately 
fails to gild the bitter pill of your predicting Snape's demise. No, 
no, I won't hear of it! he's an escape artist. He'll survive and 
laugh sardonically at all those dunderheads whom he has tricked.
[sighs] 
Blèh. I shouldn't have become so involved in someone else's universe. 
And whenever I care about a character, he/she usually dies. Hate it.

Yours severely,

Sigune
~ready for her post to be torn to bits





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