Ginevra

[hermionekitten9]

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antoshachekhonte said...
>So I've been looking through baby name books (pathetic, I know) 
>regarding Ginny's full name: Ginevra Molly Weasley.

>"Ginevra" has a couple of roots (so to speak). One is a (possible) 
>connection to the ginger plant ('gingiver' being the name in late 
>Latin). Of course, 'ginger' is a common nickname for a redhead.

>The other is that it is a Celtic name related to "Guinevere." Both 
>mean "foam white." Now the implications are interesting. First of 
>all, Guinevere is the beloved of both King Arthur and of Lancelot. 
>Hmmm.... All kinds of implications there, running from the romantic 
>to the Freudian. Secondly--and this is a bit of a stretch, but 
>grant that JKR is interested in both Celtic and Classical Greek 
>myth--'white foam' is, mythologically speaking, connecten with the 
>birth of Aphrodite/Venus. When Chronos/Saturn was killed by 
>Zeus/Jupiter and his other children, they threw his severed 
>testicles (ewww!) into the ocean, raising a (wait for it) white 
>foam. Out of this was the Goddess of Love born. THat's what 
>Botticelli is depicting in his famous painting of Venus-in-a-garlic-
>butter-sauce.

>So we have connections between Ginny and two of the great 
>traditional symbols of the female romantic ideal.... Oh, and also a 
>very spicy-hot, yummy tuber.

kitten says...
I don't by the whole Ginny=Ginevra=Guinevere=Harry's girl thing... 
mainly because I think every ship has something of this nature. The 
Harry/Luna ship has the alchemy connection, the word Luna is an 
alchemical symbol also known as the bride, or the white queen" and 
Susan(as in Bones) means "lily" in Hebrew, and we don't have to 
change her name to make it work. So I just don't see it being a Clue 
for Harry/Ginny. These "Clues" are great fun but not proof of 
anything, Though I might be a little biased because I don't like 
Harry with Hermione, Harry with Ginny, or Harry with Luna ;)

My biggest problem with Harry/ Ginny is that it seems to me that 
R/Hr shippers in their desperate desire to not have Harry being 
the "third wheel" immediately pairs him up with the first girl they 
can come up with, which is Ginny. You can look at all the R/H who 
also ship Harry with Ginny, and EVERY single R/Hr fanfic I have read 
always has a Harry and Ginny side dish to go along with it. I have 
yet to hear the "obvious evidence" that is in the books. All the 
evidence I have heard is of the nature of "Ginevra=Guinevere" type, 
things like "Ginny looks like Harry's mom"  or " JKR is writing a 
classic boarding school story" I just don't buy these clues mainly 
because there isn't any thing in cannon to support them.

It has been said that R/Hr and H/G are the most "obvious" ships in 
the books... I, being an R/Hr shipper, can understand the R/Hr being 
obvious, but did I miss something with Harry/Ginny? I just don't see 
it as "obvious" in the books. Can someone please explain this "Harry 
and Ginny is obvious" thing?

Kitten
Who ships Harry with *anybody* other then Hermione, Ginny, or luna