Ginevra

[sienna291973]

No: HPFGUIDX 98806

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "antoshachekhonte" 
<antoshachekhonte at y...> wrote:
> > kitten says...
> > I don't by the whole Ginny=Ginevra=Guinevere=Harry's girl 
thing... 
> > mainly because I think every ship has something of this nature. 
The 
> > Harry/Luna ship has the alchemy connection, the word Luna is an 
> > alchemical symbol also known as the bride, or the white queen" 
and 
> > Susan(as in Bones) means "lily" in Hebrew, and we don't have to 
> > change her name to make it work. So I just don't see it being a 
Clue 
> > for Harry/Ginny. These "Clues" are great fun but not proof of 
> > anything, Though I might be a little biased because I don't like 
> > Harry with Hermione, Harry with Ginny, or Harry with Luna ;)
> > 
> > My biggest problem with Harry/ Ginny is that it seems to me that 
> > R/Hr shippers in their desperate desire to not have Harry being 
> > the "third wheel" immediately pairs him up with the first girl 
they 
> > can come up with, which is Ginny. You can look at all the R/H 
who 
> > also ship Harry with Ginny, and EVERY single R/Hr fanfic I have 
read 
> > always has a Harry and Ginny side dish to go along with it. I 
have 
> > yet to hear the "obvious evidence" that is in the books. All the 
> > evidence I have heard is of the nature of "Ginevra=Guinevere" 
type, 
> > things like "Ginny looks like Harry's mom"  or " JKR is writing 
a 
> > classic boarding school story" I just don't buy these clues 
mainly 
> > because there isn't any thing in cannon to support them.
> > 
> > It has been said that R/Hr and H/G are the most "obvious" ships 
in 
> > the books... I, being an R/Hr shipper, can understand the R/Hr 
being 
> > obvious, but did I miss something with Harry/Ginny? I just don't 
see 
> > it as "obvious" in the books. Can someone please explain 
this "Harry 
> > and Ginny is obvious" thing?
> 
> 
> I really wasn't saying anything about shipping with this. I was 
just exploring the 
> implications of some new information: Ginny's full name.
> 
> I have said I'm happy to think of Harry with any of the likely 
suspects--or even with some 
> one else, or even with no one, so long as JKR doesn't try to 
pretend that eros isn't at the 
> center of most teen relationships, one way or another. In other 
words, I'm not really a 
> shipper. Having said that, I think you're being quite hard on 
Ginny... er, Ginevra. She's one 
> of the more interesting secondary characters, and has grown more 
so as the series has 
> progressed.
> 
> Antosha

I agree with Kitten here (bet your shocked K <g>).  I think JKR has 
threaded many symbolic images through her narrative, some of which 
appear to contradict each other when it comes to shipping.

I primarily believe that Ginny's name as Ginevra (if taken with the 
Guinevere connection) simply points to the Weasley family as the 
future first-family of the WW.  I think it foreshadows Arthur's 
appointment as the MoM.  (Don't forget there's not just Ginevra but 
also Percy - maybe short for Percival? - and Arthur himself).  I 
think this is also why there are *seven* kids, as opposed to 
another, less symbolic number.

Also, there is another interesting connection to Ginny's full name - 
Leonardo Da Vinci's early painting 'Ginevra Da Benci'.  Ginevra also 
means Juniper in Italian and this tree might be symbolically 
relevant also.

I think in the end, there is very little else we can say about the 
Guinevere connection until more information becomes available.

Sienna
Who while a solid H/Hr shipper, isn't averse to H/G if it does end 
up happening in the end.