Ginevra SHIP

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Wed May 19 14:19:32 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 98827

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "hermionekitten9" 
<kreneeb at h...> wrote:
 >I, being an R/Hr shipper, can understand the R/Hr being 
 obvious, but did I miss something with Harry/Ginny? I just don't 
see  it as "obvious" in the books. Can someone please explain 
this "Harry  and Ginny is obvious" thing?<

Pippin:
I think the Ginny/Ginevra shipping clue  is not to Guinevere 
specifically but to the  Matter of England, the whole body of 
English chivalric romances of which La Morte Darthur is only the 
best known. In these stories the hero's romantic destiny is  
generally with the first eligible woman that he sees. The readers 
were  familiar with the convention of course, and expected the 
author to provide, and the couple to overcome, huge obstacles to 
their union.  

::Pippin trots out one of her favorite hobby horses::
The Harry Potter novels resemble in plot and structure the child 
exile romances which are the oldest recorded stories in the 
Matter of England. In these romances, such as "King Horn" and 
"Havelock the Dane", the hero is a boy, deprived of his family and 
inheritance by the collusion of an exterior foe and a traitor. He is 
given to cruel relatives or strangers and is kept ignorant  of his 
true rank and worth, while the kingdom he should have inherited 
falls into disarray. 

The hero must survive periodic encounters with the foe who 
murdered his parents and is now attempting to destroy him, and 
who fails only because he insists on trying to kill the hero in 
absurdly elaborate ways.  However, the stories mostly concern 
the hero's attempts to achieve status and  deal with social 
situations.  He is taken under the guidance of a paternal figure 
who raises him to manhood. While the hero  struggles to 
discover the true nature of those around him, the good 
characters immediately perceive his worth.

 The hero does not woo his future bride. It is she who pursues 
him, often as one of many other young women. Eventually, of 
course, the hero  defeats the villain, exposes the traitor,  recovers 
his throne, restores order to the kingdom, unites with the 
heroine, and they live happily ever after.



King Horn
http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/hornint.htm

Havelock the Dane
http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/daneint.htm

Pippin





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