Prank revisited. WAS: Harry begins to act like someone I know

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 99149

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "snow15145" <snow15145 at y...> 
wrote:
> Snow- going off a bit on Sirius' benefit of the doubt:
> There are always two sides to a story and we really don't know the 
> whole story behind why that joke occurred and why Sirius said it 
> would have served Snape right. We were only given a one-sided view 
of 
> that whole scenario. What did Snape do to provoke such a response 
> from Sirius? He must have done something to one of Sirius' friends, 
> most likely James, for Sirius to have said it would have served him 
> right. Served him right for what!


Absolutely, that is what I had been saying all along. I don't think 
we know enough yet.

To be fair, I don't think that Snape deserved to be sent to Lupin 
under any circumstances (Unless he tried to kill anybody Sirius cared 
about), but I definitely think that there are thinngs Severus could 
have done that made Sirius irrationally angry and not thinking 
through of what could have been at all.




 
> I don't think we have been allowed to know that whole scene anymore 
> than the scenes in the pencieve in Snape's office. You can 
defiantly 
> misinterpret if you don't have all the facts. Like Harry feeling 
> sorry for Snape because he was viewing what he saw from Snape's 
view 
> of "his" worst memory. To bad there wasn't a pencieve thought from 
> James' point of view so you could have seen the other side of the 
> coin. Harry does ask Sirius and, if Harry was listening, was told 
> that Snape never missed an opportunity to curse James. What are 
some 
> of the things that Snape did to James? It's just a bit one-sided 
> here. We are allowed to see what has happened to Snape but not some 
> of the things that Snape obviously did to James. How can you form a 
> healthy decision based on half the fact. We do know that at some 
> point Snape did become a death eater and knew way too much about 
the 
> dark arts. This fact seemed to be dismissed by Harry when he felt 
bad 
> for the way in which his father treated Snape and for that matter 
> what Snape called his mother. You know that person (Lily) that only 
> saved his life. Harry knew that Hermione was called the same dirty 
> word by Draco, and yet Harry dismissed this in the pencieve scene 
and 
> felt bad for Snape. I personally don't even understand how Harry 
> could be sympathetic to a person (Snape) who just called his mother 
a 
> mudblood. Just for this fact, I would have appreciated what my 
father 
> had done to Snape if I were Harry.
> 
> Snow-aka Kathy King


Hmmm. I do think that there are more revelations coming which will 
show that Snape was just as horrible to Maraduers at school as they 
were to him. I also think that there was a reason of why Maraduers 
disliked Snape and vice versa. BUT regardless of that I definitely 
felt bad for Snape in the Pensieve scene. If Pensieve records 
memories objectively, this was bad, very bad. Does not mean that I 
will condemn Marauders as adults because of that, though.

I know people interpreted James' "it's more the fact that he exists, 
if you know what I mean" (ooP, p.647) as a statement of someone who 
just hates his adversary for no reason at all, but I think that it 
hints at something. I wish I could know what.

The obvious speculation will be Snape's having feelings for Lily, I 
guess. I wanted to strangle him, when he called Lily "mudblood" (that 
word , sounding differently, brings very unpleasant memories).

But I understand that it was humiliating for him to be saved by a 
girl, whom he liked. So, while still hating it, I can forgive that 
under that circumstances, I suppose.


I also don't think there was anything wrong with Harry feeling sorry 
for Snape, even if Pensieve did not show the complete picture and 
Harry's dad was less guilty than Harry thought.


It just shows that fifteen years old is capable of showing more 
empathy than his professor, who is in his midthirties, but so quick 
to rush to judgment about Harry's feelings about Pensieve scene.


Alla