Sirius vs. Snape

arrowsmithbt arrowsmithbt at btconnect.com
Tue May 25 18:12:39 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 99393

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "nkafkafi" <nkafkafi at y...> wrote:

> We don't have direct canon that DD gave Snape this mission. But we do 
> have canon that DD gave Snape an extremely critical mission: teach 
> Harry occlumency. And at this moment of truth, Snape let his emotions 
> get the better of him. He stopped giving Harry lessons because Harry 
> peeped and saw his 20 yrs old underwear. Snape knew exactly what was 
> at stake here. Sirius knew it also. He said to Harry in Umbridge's 
> fireplace (paraphrasing from memory) "listen to me Harry, the most 
> important thing in the world right now is for you to learn 
> occlumency". Sirius hated the fact that Snape was the one to teach 
> Harry occlumency, but unlike Snape, Sirius usually doesn't let his 
> emotions get the better of him. Not in the really critical moments. 
> Not since he was 16.  
> 

Kneasy:
No  canon, no.  Just another Kneasy theory extrapolating from the
text.

I don't blame Snape for throwing Harry  out.
Just  who the hell does Harry think he is? Poking into people's private
affairs, not trying to  learn, disobeying not only Snape but DD, never 
considering that someone else may know better than he. Obnoxious 
little creep. A true Slytherin.

What Harry was taught and how was no business of Sirius. He should
never have intervened with Snape at Grimmauld Place. He's being a 
petulant prima donna - again. It's liable to encourage a dangerous 
mind set in Harry "Well, Sirius is against him too, so that's all right!"
What could Harry possibly learn from Sirius? Nothing, except how to
ruin everything you touch.


> Kneasy wrote:
> Yes, Sirius obviously cares for Harry very deeply. He just has a funny
> way of showing it sometimes.
> 
> Neri:
> Yeah, I know. Like rushing to save Harry's life (and the life of five 
> other kids) in the DoM against a superior force of DEs. You won't 
> catch "watch-dog" Snape doing such a funny thing.
> 

Kneasy:
Yes.  Rushing off, disregarding all blandishments and where did it get
him? The final curtain. Sirius cocks it up again. You have to hand it to 
him, he's remarkably consistent. Secret Keeper, Pettigrew I, Pettigrew II,
Kreacher, accompanying Harry to the station, the Ministry....... an 
unblemished record of total failure.

There seems to be this strange idea that just because he's professed 
that he cares for Harry then it would be sacrilege to consider him less 
than a shining example of near perfection. Not so. He's dangerously 
flawed if not an outright ESE. Suppose he had survived, what would be 
the likely result - Harry would consider that he could do no wrong, he 
would do nothing without Sirius's approval. And Sirius would mess up 
again, he can't help it.
He was a danger to Harry. Better he be removed.





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