Lupin is worse was 'Re: Are there no depths

mnaper2001 mnaperrone at aol.com
Tue May 25 01:20:22 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 99404

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> 
wrote:
> > Pippin wrote:
> > > 
> > > What about when he showed his Dark Mark to Fudge? All 
> this  ambiguity about whether Snape or Sirius is worse is very 
> clever work on JKR's part, since it distracts us from Lupin who 
> was  worse than either of them. There is no question that he 
> thought  what he was doing was wrong and he continued to do 
> it.<<
> 
> Ally:
> You are absolutely right.  Lupin's flaw is really the most  
> reprehensible of all, isn't it?  At least Sirius and Snape will pick 
> a side - although they may make mistakes about it - and fight for 
> it.  Remus fully understood it there was no justification for doing  
> terrible things to Snape.  He allowed it because he was too weak 
> and afraid to stop it.
> <snip>
> > That said, do you think JKR will do something significant with it 
> in  future books?<<
> 
> Pippin:
> *Finally!!!!* Somebody gets it!  ::blushes:: er, yes. If Lupin were 
> tricked  or blackmailed or jinxed into serving Lord Voldemort, 
> how would he get out of it, given how weak and afraid he is?
> Would he tell the truth to  Dumbledore?
> 
>  Or would he find an excuse not to tell...continue to serve the 
> Dark Lord in secret, hoping against hope that Voldemort would 
> overreach himself in the end. 
> 
>  But the prophecy says there's a choice to be made--you can 
> serve Harry or Voldemort, not both. Ever notice how much 
> Lupin's boggart looks like a prophecy orb? 
> 
> Pippin
> who has been saying that Lupin is definitely dodgy since post 
> 39362

Ally

I'm ready to jump on the dodgy Remus bandwagon!  I think you make an 
excellent point about how JKR pushed Snape and Sirius into the 
forefront, leaving Remus always there in the background.  I've always 
really detested Remus' wishy-washiness, but its so easy to give him a 
pass when JKR paints him as such a nice guy and never has him do 
anything offensive or "loud," so to speak.

He drove me crazy in the pensieve scene, and it drove me BONKERS when 
he forgot his wolfsbane potion.  How ineffectual is that?  So, I 
think Remus is definitely vulnerable to manipulation, particularly if 
V had something over Remus that would make him look bad in Harry's or 
DD's eyes.

Didn't JKR say Remus would play and important part in future books?  
Everyone assumes its going to be something heroic or good, and I 
generally did, too, but I do think its interesting that JKR has not 
called too much attention to Remuses weakness.  She could be setting 
us all up. . .






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