A question about Fudge ( Fans of ESE!Fudge, you could like that)

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Wed May 26 23:22:30 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 99537

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "evita2fr" 
<Snarryfan at a...> wrote:
> I posted this in answer for another post, but then the 
Sirius/Severus 
> thread blown up, so... :)
> 
> What I asked was this:
> 
> Directly from POA, Page387, chap 21:
> 
> "What amazes me most is the behavior of the 
dementors...you've really
> no idea what made them retreat, Snape?"
> 
> "No, Minister...by the time I come 'round they were heading 
back to
> their positions at the entrances..."
> 
> There, he said he only saw them go away after he's awaked. 
Future!Harry can testify, he came after the Patronus' departure ( 
And if we  think to that, after his awakening, he had to free 
himself, see Ron,  conjure the stretcher, and find where 
everyone is gone, it must take  a moment.) 
> 
> Sirius and Hermione fainted before Harry.
> 
> Future!Harry saw the scene from afar, but he can't really said 
what  he saw to Fudge.
> 
> So the only witness of the near-Kiss are Harry and the 
dementors.
> 
> But Page 421 (chap 22):
> 
> "And the dementors?" said Dumbledore."They'll be removed 
from the
> school, I trust?"
> "Oh yes, they'll have to go,"said Fudge, running his fingers
> distractedly through his hair."Never dreamed they'd attempt to
> administer the Kiss on an innocent boy..."
> 
> 
> Nobody saw the dementor trying to Kiss Harry ( safe the other 
> dementors, are they able to talk ?), every one was blacked out, 
>so  how Fudge could know that ?
> 

We know that they can communicate because they reported to 
Fudge that Sirius was saying 'He's at Hogwarts' in his sleep for 
days. Fudge makes two trips to Azkaban, the first, where he 
gives Sirius the newspaper, and a second, secret one on the 
night that Sirius escaped. The second trip  is hushed up, though 
Arthur knows about it, so Fudge naturally doesn't mention it to 
Rosemerta. But if Fudge had done this to help Sirius escape, he 
wouldn't have let Arthur know, surely?

The dementors would have no reason not to tell Fudge they had 
tried to kiss Harry. They don't know he's an innocent boy. They're 
blind, so they don't know he's a boy at all. As far as they're 
concerned, he's interfering with them in the course of their lawful 
duties. It's not in their nature to understand pleading or 
excuses--why wouldn't they think they were doing what they were 
supposed to do?

Since they're blind, they also wouldn't be able to report the form 
of the patronus that chased them off, or tell Fudge who conjured 
it.

Pippin







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