[HPforGrownups] Re: What about the Door(that wasn't at the end of the tunnel)?
Susan Snow
snowwy54 at yahoo.com
Thu May 27 16:49:42 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 99573
Here's my two knuts and the way I imagined it when I
read the book. The way into the tunnel is magically
sealed but at the whomping willow by the willow.
Remus should not as a werewolf been able to prod the
tree without being assaulted by it. But Peter as a
rat was small enough to prod the knot on the tree.
The rest in their animagi forms could travel the
tunnel after Peter prodded the knot. I always
imagined that Sirius told Snap to get a stick or other
long object to prod the knot on the tree.
Snowwy
--- quigonginger <quigonginger at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Carolyn:
> ... there are further unexplained aspects to
> > this part of the story. If it was possible for the
> Marauders to
> > somehow get in to the Shack in their gigantic
> transformed states
> and
> > lead a large werewolf out, what was to prevent
> Lupin getting out
> > anytime he was confined to the Shack? Was there
> not a danger he
> would
> > inevitably find the tunnel exit and rush out?
> > The only other logical explanations are that there
> is another way
> out
> > of the Shack, or animagi can also shrink if they
> need to, or the
> > tunnel expands and contracts to suit the size of
> the people trying
> to
> > get down it (4) - again, not particularly safe for
> caging a
> werewolf,
> > don't you think?
> >
> > Whichever way you look at this, all the
> explanations are
> > unsatisfactory. We have no canon to support
> another exit from the
> > Shack. It is beyond credibility that the
> transformed Lupin,
> thrashing
> > around regularly once a month might not discover
> the exit to the
> > tunnel. The simplicity of the spells needed to
> prevent this are
> > obvious.
> snip more
>
> Ginger replies: When I first read this (and in
> subsequent readings)
> I imagined that Poppy was taking him down and then
> shutting him in-
> say a bar across the door, or a spell, either of
> which James and
> Sirius could have undone to release Remus, and then
> shut him in again
> afterwards.
>
Snowwy:
Poppy does take him down to the shack and brings him
through the tunnel and leaves him in the shack. When
she leaves she goes back through the tunnel and
reactivates the willow on her way out.
>
> In picturing it now, I am left to believe that there
> wasn't a barrier
> between the house and the tunnel, and that one could
> go straight out
> through the Willow unhindered.
There is no barries between the tunnel and the shack
but there is a barrier between the tunnel and anywhere
else besides the shack. When they went to prowl the
grounds Peter prodded the knot. The tunnel is big
enough for the animals or Padfoot could not have drug
Ron in during the Shreiking Shack Incident.
> All Snape sees is a werewolf at the end of the
> tunnel. The barrier
> is gone. He sees no one else. Sirius could not be
> there, in either
> form. As a human, he would have been unsafe, and as
> a dog he would
> have been big enough for Snape to see. James was
> behind him, so he
> wasn't there. Remus, we assume, can't undo the
> barrier.
>
Okay not it's your turn to debunk my ideas
snowwy
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