What about the Door?

[naamagatus]

No: HPFGUIDX 99709

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "a_reader2003" 
<carolynwhite2 at a...> wrote:
> > 
> > It is very hard to believe that DD didn't know the marauders 
could 
> > transfigure.  Does anyone know where it is that DD speaks about 
> it.  Was he misleading us again?  And certainly, he knew after the 
> prank that the boys knew about the tunnel and the way to disarm 
the 
> tree.
> 
> Carolyn:
> Probably. What he says (POA, p.312, UK edition) is: 
> 'Sirius told me all about how they became Animagi last night', 
said Dumbledore, smiling. 'An extraordinary achievement - not least, 
> keeping it quiet from me. And then I remembered the most unusual 
form your Patronus took, when it charged Mr Malfoy down at your 
Quidditch match against Ravenclaw. So you did see your father last 
night, Harry..you found him inside yourself.'
> 
> This doesn't say when he found out for the first time, only that 
he heard Sirius confess to their activities the previous night. It 
also only comments on his admiration for the Marauder's working out 
how to become Animagi without him knowing, not that he wasn't 
subsequently aware of a werewolf accompanied by two huge animals 
roving the grounds. And he more or less admits that he was 
>previously aware of the unusual form that James' patronus took.

Why *James'* Patronus? Am I not getting something? Dumbledore heard 
from Sirius about the Marauders' animagi stunts, including the 
various animals to which they turned. He then made the connection to 
the form that Harry's Patronus took: James' animagus form is stag, 
Harry's Patronus form is stag. How does James' Patronus come in?

> 
> Since Lupin was always accompanied by the other Marauders at all 
> other times, and two of them in particular were extremely clever, 
and a by-word for trouble, it would not have been difficult for 
> Dumbledore to work out what was going on once it was reported to 
him. Perhaps he thought Lupin deserved to run about in the fresh 
>air, provided he was supervised - a very Hagrid POV! 

If DD thought that Lupin desereved to be outside, in the fresh air, 
while in wolf form, he could have arranged for it in ways that would 
be safer than relying on three teenage animagi to restrain a 
dangerous werewolf. 

Lupin felt guilty for what he had done then, with the extenuating 
circumstance of a very young age. For DD to have collaborated in 
such irresponsible and extremely dangerous conduct would be 
inexcusable. 

<snip> 
> The alternative is assume SillyOldBuffer!Dumbledore - which I am 
> greatly tempted to do at times.
> 

Certainly better than wicked!DD. However, I see him simply as 
NotOmniscient!DD. Also, PlotEnabling!DD.


Naama, arguing this on and off at least since 2002