What were the corridor dreams ?
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Mon Nov 1 21:39:23 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 116967
Del:
> 2. They were dreams LV was deliberately implanting in Harry's
mind.
> I doubt it, because :
> - LV wasn't apparently aware of the connection between him
and Harry until the Snake Dream.
> - Why would LV want to inform Harry so early of the existence of
a potential weapon against him (against LV, I mean) ? LV first
did what seemed obvious : he tried to get people who had
normal access to the Prophecy to steal it for him. It's only when
he learned that only he and Harry could take the Prophecy that he
conceived the much more hazardous plan of tricking Harry into
taking the Prophecy.<
Pippin:
According to Dumbledore, the dreams prior to the snake vision
were inadvertent on Voldemort's part. "Voldemort, of course, had
been obsessed with the possibility of hearing the prophecy ever
since he regained his body, and as he dwelled on the door, so
did you, though you did not know what it meant."
After the snake vision, Voldemort seems to have taken control of
the dreams, which leads to an interesting question...how did he
know Harry was having them? Apparently he sensed that from
Harry's mind itself, since Harry hadn't yet told anyone about the
dreams.
There's a noteworthy increase in Harry's desire to get behind the
door after the snake vision -- "Something he wanted with all his
heart lay beyond....A prize beyond his dreams....If only his scar
would stop prickling..then he would be able to think more
clearly...."-OOPch 23.
Voldemort seems to have been hoping that Harry would try to
find his way past the door, but of course Harry didn't know how.
That seems to have led Voldemort to spring Rookwood, former
head of the Department of Mysteries, from Azkaban. After that,
Harry begins to dream of what lies beyond the door.
We can't say for sure that Voldemort himself was never in the
corridor outside the Department of Mysteries. He doesn't seem
to have been an outlaw at first -- remember the Black parents
thought their son was a hero for joining him. He might have
visited the Ministry openly earlier in his career.
The other possibility is that the information came via legilimency
from those who had been there, like Malfoy. I think I like that one
better, because it also explains how Voldemort could bring Harry
the further visions of what lay beyond the door. Once Rookwood
was returned to his service, Voldemort was able to probe his
mind for details of the Hall of Prophecy and how to get to it.
I think the Rookwood vision was deliberate -- Voldemort knew
Harry was inside his head and went over to look at the mirror
deliberately to frighten him.
(Spy in the order stuff -- those who are convinced that all current
order members are saints can stop reading now <g>)
Voldemort makes a big point of announcing that he's been on
the wrong track and he is now taking a new tack. Why does he
want Harry to know this? I suspect it's because Voldemort has
already found out what he isn't supposed to know...that only he
or Harry can take the prophecy.
Assuming the directed dreams start immediately after the snake
vision, that can only mean that Voldemort had already conceived
the idea of getting Harry to take the prophecy for him -- and that
means that someone inside the Order had already given him the
information. It could have been Kreacher, but surely Kreacher
would have been forbidden to repeat this?
Pippin
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