The REAL Spinners End (Was Re: A Spinners [of Tales] End...)

antoshachekhonte antoshachekhonte at yahoo.com
Mon Nov 1 22:27:25 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 116976


> LadyOfThePensieve <chrissilein at y...> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I simply think this is a very interesting and crucial information. we
> laready know JKR based Mrs Norris on the Mrs Norris in Austen´s Emma.
> So why shouldn´t she be inspired by a book she probably read: Spinners
> End?
> 
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "samnanya" <yswahl at s...> wrote:
> > 
> > Neri
> > Googling "Spinners End" I found that it is the name of 
> > a romantic book by Mary Minton: http://www.alibris.com/
> > search/search.cfm?qwork=6267239&matches=3&qsort=r
> > According to the book review this is a place in London,
> > but it doesn't appear like it really exists.
> > 
> > Samnanya
> > Check the symmary and you will find that the story 
> > (heavily snipped) is about Francine Chayter who visits
> > her father in London. She wants to know her father better
> > but he hates the sight of her. "an unexpected trip to
> > Monte Carlo brought her a suprise revelation about her
> > mother"
> > 
> > Well............. which character in the potterverse is in
> > a somewhat similar situation?
> > who can "the spinner" be a reference to?
> > why would Luna's father "hate" her?
> > and what is the suprise revelation about her mother?
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> > which character in the potterverse is in a somewhat
> > similar situation? Luna of course ....... 
> > 
> > who can "the spinner" be a reference to? Mr Lovegood,
> > editor and publisher of The Quibbler -- spinner can also
> > mean "spinner of tales" like her father always did in
> > articles printed in the Quibbler (someone creative has
> > to be making up those stories)
> > 
> > why would Luna's father "hate" her? and
> > what is the suprise revelation about her mother?
> > Luna's dad can hate her because she was the indirect
> > cause of the death of his wife in that experiment that
> > went awfully wrong. What experiment? Some have said that 
> > Luna was bitten by a werewolf as a child and her mom
> > tried to develop a charm, spell or potion to cure her.
> > The spell was not successful and her mom died trying to
> > save her daughter (sounds like a Lilly-like sacrifice to me)
> > We know the werewolf potion was a recent development 
> > and that her mom died a year or so after harry entered
> > hogwarts. We know that Luna loves her dad, but can we
> > assume the opposite?
> > I wonder......
> > 
> > 
> > So as I have said before,
> > 
> > Mr. Lovegood WILL meet his end before the HBP is
> > too far along.
> > 
> > the dark lord is seriously bothered with him since
> > he published the Harry interview 
> > 
> > Luna is still at Hogwarts looking for her stuff
> > after the end of term
> > 
> > if they are going on vacation to sweden over the
> > summer then it would make sense for Mr Lovegood to
> > publish a final summer edition before leaving
> > giving Goyle Sr., who was not at the MoM prime opportunity
> > to trash the quibbler and kill Mr. Lovegood 
> > 
> > If you read this far without falling off your chair,
> > maybe you might actually think it is possible, or even
> > extend the RIP!MrLovegood theory.
> 
> 

Antosha:

Hmmmm. I find the idea of JKR using the title of a novel possibly interesting but, in this 
case, highly unlikely. No offense meant to Ms. Minton, author of _Spinners End_, but she's 
no Jane Austen (few if any are). The novel is recent (about fifteen years old) and still in 
print, so JKR would be running the risk of copyright infringement, even if this were the 
case.

I do hope we get to know more about Luna and Dad, but it seems unlikely that the title 
refers to them--we know (or reasonably surmise) that they live in Ottery St. Catchpole, 
along with the Weasleys and Diggorys, and if the title is a possessive as opposed to a place 
name, it seems more likely that it refers to something less obscure that a (tale)spinner's 
end...

However, I have turned up a likely candidate for the source of the name of both JKR and 
Mary Minton's works.

Spinners End is....



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An industrial estate (read industrial park) in Cradley Heath, the West Midlands, just west of 
Birmingham.

It is spelled, btw, without an apostrophe.







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