The intended murder of Pettigrew and moral corruption (Was; Vengeance on Sna

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 117089


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" 
<dumbledore11214 at y...> wrote:

> Alla:
> 
> No, actually, I was thinking someone higher up - like Amelia 
Bones  for example. Going back to the initial speculation, all 
what I am  saying that it is PLAUSIBLE to believe that had Harry 
not stopped  Sirius and Remus from killing Peter, the alternate 
universe story  would turn out for better not for worse.
> 
> Of course, many additional factors may have come out into play 
OR NOT.
> 
> It is possible that Sirius would have given a hearing at that 
point.  Whether Ministry thought that Sirius was out of his mind 
also would  not matter - since presumabley the person cannot 
fool this potion, right?<

That's not what Fudge thinks:
"As Minerva and Severus have doubtless told you," said 
Dumbledore, "we heard Barty Crouch confess. Under the 
influence of Veritaserum, he told us how he was smuggled out 
of Azkaban, and how Voldemort--learning of his continued 
existence from Bertha Jorkins -- went to free him from his father 
and used him to capture Harry. The plan worked, I tell you. 
Crouch has helped Voldemort to return."

"See here, Dumbledore," said Fudge, and Harry was astonished 
to see a slight smile dawning on his face, "you -- you can't 
seriously believe that. You-Know-Who -- back? Come now, come 
now....certainly, Crouch may have *believed* himself to be acting 
upon You-Know-Who's orders--but to take the word of a lunatic 
like that, Dumbledore...." --GoF ch36.

Clearly Fudge thinks that the potion only forces the person to 
state what he believes to be true, not the objective truth. And 
since he and Macnair, not Amelia Bones, were at Hogwarts that 
night, and the authorization for the dementor's kiss had already 
been given, there is little hope in my heart that Sirius would have 
escaped the Kiss  if he had shown up with Pettigrew's blood on 
his hands, even if Sirius had been questioned under 
veritaserum. 

One can certainly devise an alternate scenario in which Amelia 
Bones drops by for a cuppa, orders a trial for Black, and he is 
acquitted of murdering the twelve Muggles, despite the recorded 
testimony of eyewitnesses who all swore they had seen Black 
blow them to smithereens and then burst out laughing.  

 But  I can't say I find it more likely than the one I proposed. 

Pippin