Was Harry designed as the Anti-LV weapon ?

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No: HPFGUIDX 117104


Del wrote:
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* There were 2 young couples in the first Order (maybe more, but we
know of those 2 only) : the Potters, and the Longbottoms.

* Those 2 couples conceived their first kid after or around the time
they entered the Order.

* Those 2 couples gave birth 1 day apart.

* Those 2 couples had good reasons *not* to have a kid at that time.
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* A Prophecy was given, not even 2 months before the birth of the
kids, announcing that one of them would vanquish LV.

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Could it be that Harry and Neville were deliberately conceived as the
ultimate anti-LV weapon ?


Neri:
A very intriguing theory, Del. Actually, it is quite possible that the
timeline can be shown to support it. I assume you wrote that the
prophecy was given 2 months before Harry's birth because DD says about
2 months before Harry's 16th birthday that he heard the prophecy "a
cold and wet night 16 years ago". But we have reasons to think that DD
is speaking loosely here. First, there is the "cold and wet night"
while DD is saying this in June. Second, when Umbridge inspect
Trelawney in the beginning of the OotP school year (that is, only 2
months after Harry's 15th birthday) Trelawney says she had her job for
"nearly 16 years". This suggests that she was hired by DD during the
end of 1979 or the beginning of 1980. This means that prohecy was
actually told about the same time that Harry and Neville were
conceived. It could be shortly after that or shortly before that.

However, since a prophecy is by definition somewhat deterministic, I'm
not sure that all these coincidences necessarily support your theory.
That is, maybe they happened because they were fated to happen that
way, rather then because DD arranged them to happen. I wrote here
before that sometime it is difficult to distinguish between
Puppetmaster!JKR and Puppetmaster!DD.


Kneasy wrote:

How can Harry claim the credit?
It's only now at the end of book 5 that he has the faintest idea of what
it's all about. He's been stumbling about in the dark, encountering
Voldy when he least expects it, escaping by the skin of his teeth and
incredible (some might say unbelievable) luck. And in every escape
he has outside help - the Protection in PS/SS, Fawkes in CoS, the
Timeturner in PoA, conflict of wands in GoF, DD himself in OoP.
If any one of these hadn't been there he'd be dead.

You'll note that the Protection, Fawkes and the Timeturner are all
associated with DD - and he was aware that Fawkes' feathers were
in both wands. Then he turns up himself in OoP.

Meanwhile DD arranges for him to have extremely useful extra lessons
(not given to *any* other student - Patronus! and Occlumency) without
bothering to give him the whole story. If that's not Puppetmaster!DD
I don't know what is.


Neri:

If it is Puppetmaster!DD then he's a crazy gambler puppet master. How
could he be sure that the Basilisk won't bite Harry's head off instead
of only nicking his arm, or that Voldy won't shoot his AK half a
second before Harry shot his expelliarmus? If I was a puppet master
and the whole WW would depend on my puppet mastering I would have
played my cards much more sensibly. I suspect that DD is stumbling in
the dark almost as much as Harry is.

Neri