Good moral core (Re: Dirty Harry/Clean Harry)
dungrollin
spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com
Wed Nov 3 21:13:24 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 117151
> Neri wrote :
> " If you accept that he has free will, you must be satisfied with
> "because after considering the options (or not) he decided that
> option A was better than option B"."
>
> Alla anwered :
<snipped>
> OK, let me try to rephrase my question again - how does Harry KNOW
> which decisions are right? What helps him: higher power? generation
> memory? What?"
>
> Del rephrases:
> Option A was better than option B *according to what* ?? What scale
> was Harry using ? What determining principle was he applying ? He
> was freely choosing, but what did he base his choices on ?
Dungrollin opines:
I don't know what JKR would say, and, for that matter I don't
know what Harry would say, either; but I would assume what I assume
for everyone in real life: anticipatory guilt.
Decisions are made basically on the principle of `is it worth
it?' Was the guilt that Harry would feel over winding up Dudders
at the beginning of OotP likely to outweigh the pleasure he got from
doing it? Didn't seem like it to me didn't seem like
he felt at all bad about it. Would the guilt of hanging around
doing nothing while Sirius was being tortured by Voldy outweigh the
danger Harry would put himself in by dashing off to his rescue?
Evidently so.
Harry doesn't appear to be a member of an organised religion (or
if he is, he's keeping very quiet about it); he bases his actions
on imagining whether he can live with himself if he does or
doesn't follow a certain course. When I say `imagining'
it can be a split second decision, or a long drawn-out process of
agonising (but I think Harry generally goes for the former).
Voldy, on the other hand, doesn't appear to feel any guilt at
all. About anything or anyone. So he places far fewer curbs on his
own behaviour. His decisions are still based on `is it worth
it?' But with a far more materialistic basis. Killing mudbloods
makes him feel good, it demonstrates his power over the inferior to
himself and others. Is this good feeling going to be outweighed by
the guilt he feels for having taken a human life? Nope. Decision
made.
The ability to empathise is the difference between them. Where you
think this ability comes from depends upon your views, (and how much
you've thought about it).
I would like to say one thing about nature/nurture (in the RW),
however, and that is that the debate cannot be resolved
philosophically, it can only be resolved by looking at evidence. If
you're interested, a mind-bendingly good book is Nature Via
Nurture by Matt Ridley (though it could be quite depressing for
parents). Nurture can only have an effect if there is a nature to
work on, and nature can only reach its full potential if it is
nurtured in a certain way. They both have effects, but they
interact with each other, rather than just contributing a percentage
to the eventual character of a person.
With this in mind, Harry being brought up in a wizarding family as
a `pampered little prince' *could* have had a disastrous
effect on him; and Riddle having had a loving family *could* have
changed a great deal.
What JKR would say, however, I have no idea.
Dungrollin
Wishing, on days like today, that Drop the Dead Donkey would come
back.
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