Did the Potters know the prophecy?
dungrollin
spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com
Fri Nov 5 10:58:48 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 117282
> Dungrollin:
> Why is it so important that Voldy doesn't know about the power
> that Harry's got in such quantities and that he has none of? And
> most intriguingly: how could the prophecy mean something *more* to
> Voldy than it means to us?
Finwitch replied:
The prophecy says 'power the Dark Lord knows not'. It doesn't say he
doesn't HAVE it. He just doesn't know it.
Dungrollin counters:
DD says at the end of OotP `It is the power held within that room
that you possess in such quantities and which Voldemort has not at
all.'
Finwitch again:
After all, since Voldemort took Harry's blood, he has all powers
Harry does, but some of those he knows not.
Dungrollin counters:
That's pure and unadulterated speculation. All we know for sure,
is that because Voldy used Harry's blood as the `blood of an
enemy' that Voldy can now touch Harry (Graveyard, GoF), where
Quirrell!Mort couldn't. Nothing about transfer of *powers*.
Finwitch again:
And um - Voldemort *doesn't* know. All he knows is that either Harry
or Neville is the one with the power to defeat him. Now, as OOP&MOM
take great deal of trouble he doesn't find out the whole prophecy-
Dungrollin counters:
I'm afraid that's pure speculation again. We have absolutely
no clue whether the Order and the MoM in general know the contents
of the prophecy and frankly, would you trust Fudge not to tell
Malfoy? I wouldn't.
During OotP evidently the order knew there was a prophecy and
it needed protecting. I don't think the ministry knew that Voldy
was after a prophecy at this time, though. They wouldn't have
believed DD if he'd told them, it was just the Order that knew.
If anyone other than DD and Harry know the prophecy in its entirety,
then I reckon Voldy would know. If Moody had known, then Barty
Crouch would have found out. If Pettigrew had known, then Voldy
would know. As Voldy clearly doesn't know, I suggest that nobody
not even Lily and James, was taken into DD's confidence
about the contents of the prophecy before GH.
Finwitch:
Voldemort *believes* it holds information about this 'power to
defeat' him. If he's able to learn it, well... Of course, WE know it
doesn't, but Voldy doesn't know that.
Dungrollin counters:
But *why* does Voldy believe that the prophecy will tell him how to
kill Harry? And *why* does DD think it so important that he
doesn't find out?
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