Every Tom, Dick and Harry... & Prince (partly OT)

justcarol67 justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Wed Nov 10 23:16:14 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 117558


bboyminn wrote:
<snip> 

> So, theoretically, there could be, somewhere in that vast expanse of
> UK related European royalty, a wizard or two. 
> 
> Also, keep in mind that it is not just the son of a King who is a
> prince, but the son of a prince. Prince Will & Prince Harry are the
> sons of Prince Charles. One would also assume that sons of a
princess are also Princes. <snip>

Carol:
Since the women are behind the men in the line of succession (Princess
Anne's three brothers and their children, male and female, are all
ahead of her even though all but Prince Charles are younger than she
is), the sons of a princess are not princes, at least not in England.
For the record, Princess Anne's children are Peter and Zara Phillips.
The children of the late Princess Margaret, Queen Elizabeth's sister,
are Viscount Linley and Lady Sarah. Why Princess Margaret's children
are titled (minor) nobility and Princess Anne's are "commoners"
despite their royal blood, I'm not sure. It may be because Margaret
was the daughter of a ruling king and the Queen Mother whereas Anne
was the daughter of a ruling queen and her consort, the Duke of
Edinburgh. (I know he's called Prince Philip, but he's not the son of
an English king or queen.) Or maybe it's because Princess Anne's first
husband, Captain Mark Phillips, was a "commoner." 

The daughters of a prince, OTOH, are princesses. Prince Andrew's
children are Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie despite the fact
that their mother ("Fergie") was a "commoner" before she became
Duchess of York.

Anyway, to bring this post at least close to the topic so it won't be
burned off the tapestry by the List Elves, the children of the two
princesses (all of them adults now and some of them close to fifty,
IIRC) could be considered "half-bloods" (half blueblood, half
"commoner") but none of them have the title "prince" and two are
female. Prince Charles's sons, Prince William and Prince Harry, would
be "purebloods" because their mother was minor nobility. (The
available brides with a larger amount of the "blood royal," that is,
European royalty, were a scarce commodity.) Prince Edward, the
childless youngest son of Elizabeth II, could by a stretch of the
imagination be Prince Dick since his full name is Edward Antony
*Richard* Louis, but of course he's not a "half-blood." The only
actual "Dick" in the royal family (not that he uses the nickname, to
my knowledge), is HRH Prince Richard Duke of Gloucester, whose father
was Prince Henry, younger brother of Queen Elizabeth's father, King
George V, and patron of the Richard III Society. He was born in 1944
(not too old to be a Hogwarts instructor given the long lives of
wizards), but he's not a "half-blood," either.  

Here's a link to the order of succession if anyone wants it.

http://www.debretts.co.uk/royal_connections/royal_family.html

Carol, with apologies for pushing the limits of, erm, on-topicness







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