Harry's moral core vs. Voldie's
ginnysthe1
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Thu Nov 11 02:50:07 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 117574
Kelsey wrote:
> <snip> And we don't know the circumstances of the death of Tom's
Slytherin-heir mother (who fell in love with a Muggle). [insert
outrageous theory about her sacrificial death here]. I think that,
deep in the psyche of these two children, the abandonment issues are
_about_ equal."<
Del replied:
> Not necessarily. Harry was loved during 15 months. Tom might not
have been. This could be enough to create a major difference between
the two.<
Carol notes:
> We know that she lived just long enough to give Tom a name. To all
intents and purposes, she died in childbirth. That, I suppose, is a
kind of sacrifice--she gave her life for his--but it wasn't a
deliberate action, a choice, as Lily's sacrifice was. (Or Mrs.
Crouch's, for that matter.) Mrs. Riddle making the effort as she's
dying to name her son after his father and her own strikes me as an
act of love not only for the infant but for the two men involved. Sad
that one of them was the wretch who abandoned his pregnant wife, and
unfortunate that Tom could have no memory of that loving moment.<
Kim commenting now:
I agree with Del, that Harry was greatly loved by both his parents,
though even for such a short time. Not only that, IMO his parents
loved each other too and exposed Harry to that love also for that
short time. We know so little about Tom Riddle's birth circumstances
that's it's hard to say anything more specific about it than what Tom
said himself. However, I've been constructing a history of Tom
Riddle's parents and of Tom's early childhood these last few days, so
see what y'all (now that really gives my region of the US away!)
think of a few tidbits, if you dare...
Firstly, I don't think it's certain that Tom Riddle's mother was the
one who named her son, as Carol suggests. She may have died before
she could do that, she may not have known he would be a boy (although
she could have picked out a boy's and a girl's name ahead of time,
just in case). Maybe it was the birth attendant, the midwife, or
someone else who named him after his father (which would mean they
had to know who the father was). I admit it's all maybe.
Secondly, I'm not sure Tom Riddle (LV's father) necessarily knew that
his wife was pregnant when he left her. We know that he left her
when he learned she was a witch. (And who told him this? Maybe she
did, maybe she didn't). She could have known she was pregnant and
not told her husband this, but told him she was a witch first, and
then he left her, never knowing that she *was* pregnant. Maybe his
fatal encounter with Tom Ridddle (son) years later in the Little
Hangleton House was the first he knew that he had a son.
Thirdly, there are all kinds of questions about the relationship Tom
Riddle's father and mother had with one another (and I think this was
probably discussed in previous posts that I should look up in the
archives if only I knew how!) before Tom Riddle the son was
conceived. How and why did Mrs. Riddle keep her witch status a
secret from her boyfriend and then husband? Did she know he disliked
wizards when she got involved with him, or did he say that his family
disliked wizards, but that he might have been more tolerant? Did her
family dislike Muggles as much as his family disliked wizards? Or
maybe it was only he, not necessarliy his family, who disliked
wizards, but the young witch was so in love (or lust) with him that
she lied by omission about who she was?
Anyhow, that's all for now. If there's any interest, I can keep
going on another post.
Til later, Kim
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