Apparition lessons (was Re: Draco's POV?)

Steve bboyminn at yahoo.com
Fri Nov 12 00:57:23 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 117657


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "kizor0" <ryokas at h...> wrote:
> 
> > What about the Room of Requirements?  If someone needed to apparate 
> > inside of Hogwart's, could this room meet that requirement?  If so, 
> > that opens up so much speculation (e.g., Snape's travels at the end 
> > of Book 4, etc.).  
> > 
> > Any opinions?
> > Julie


> Mine is that your point is a very good one. It would depend on the 
> amount of power the RoR holds. It can supply ordinary items and 
> magical artefacts of some power in large amounts, that we've seen. So 
> what if someone has a burning need to get to London; would he find a 
> Portkey? If someone really needs to defeat Voldemort, would he find 
> the Green-Flamed Torch or some such weapon inside? If the DEs take 
> the place during the impending battle of Hogwarts, what happens?
> - Kizor

bboyminn:

I have to wonder if there aren't limits to what the Room of
Requirements can do. 

First, in the sense of desiring it from a distance, as in desiring to
apparate into it from outside Hogwarts. Personally, I don't think that
can happen. I think it grants the need of the immediate user;
immediate user not only in the sense of immediate in-the-moment need,
but needing to be in the immediate proximity. 

Remember, according to Dobby, you have to go to the hallway outside
the Room of Requirements and walk past it three times concentrating on
what it is you desire. That the only model for access we have seen.
So, if you are in London, or Devon, or Edinburgh, there is no known
way to active the room from your remote location. 

Also, remote access creates potential conflict, what if one person is
outside the door of the RoR with one desire, and another person is at
a remote location with a conflicting desire?

Next, we have never seen the Room provide anything /active/ like a
portkey. It provided space, books, bookshelves, pillows/cushions, and
various magical instruments (Foe Detectors/secrecy sensors). I suspect
the magical instruments are only valid and active within the confines
of the Room. That is on the assumption that the magical devices were
created by the Room itself. Harry says that he suspects that the Foe
Glass was the Glass that once belonged to Mad Eye Moody. If that is
true then the Room summoned it from somewhere in the castle; it didn't
create it. That instrument would work inside or outside the Room,
because it wasn't created by the Room.

For the Room to create a Portkey, that's another matter, because a
Portkey needs to be programmed. You first need the object, then you
need to imbue that object with not only the /action/ charm which would
be somewhat universal, but also with the activation method and
destination charms which are very specific. In addition, once the
object left the Room, it would be out of the influence of the Room. 

I suspect, although I admit I can't prove, that once out of the
influence of the Room, the Portkey object, which is probably conjured,
and the Portkey Charm would faulter. 

So, getting into The Room from outside Hogwarts would be difficult,
and relying on any object created by The Room, outside The Room, would
not be reliable or advisable.

One last thought, if the Room gives you what you require and Umbridge
required evidence to convict the DA Club members, then couldn't
Dumbledore have reasonably argued that the Room created the Member
List because that's what Umbridge /required/. That would make the
Member List very unreliable evidenece as far as I can see.


Just a few thoughts.

Steve/bbboyminn (was bboy_mn)









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