Who knows? DD knows, that's who.

[confusinglyso]

No: HPFGUIDX 117812


In Message 117760

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com,

> Barry Arrowsmith <arrowsmithbt at b...>
> Date:  Sat Nov 13, 2004  2:04 pm
> Subject:  Who knows? DD knows, that's who.

snip

> This is somewhat at odds with the next passage after Harry brings up
> the possibility that it could be Neville:
> "He chose the boy he thought most likely to be a danger to him,"
> Oh yes? And on what evidence did Voldy base this assessment and how
> the
> hell does DD know? We're talking inner-most thoughts and fears here;
> it's unlikely to have been a topic of conversation down at the DE 
> Glee Club. But DD goes further:
> "He saw himself in you before he had ever seen you [...] gave you
> powers, and a future, which have fitted you to escape him not once,
> but four times so far..."

> It changes from knowing to choosing; from a certainty to a guess
> (albeit an educated one) on Voldy's part. Mind you, the Ministry 
> seem
> to be hedging their bets - they left that question mark there. But 
> DD expresses no doubts, it's Harry.

> Kneasy

> P.S.
> I notice that while I was cobbling this together iris_ft put up a 
> post that also wonders at events pre-GH. Good oh. Two heads are 
> better than one.        Kneasy (end of postscript)


>>  From:  "iris_ft" <iris_ft at y...>
>>  Date:  Fri Nov 12, 2004  10:35 pm
>>  Subject:  Re: Inside Harry's mind


>>  --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67"
>>  <justcarol67 at y...> wrote:

>>  > I think Harry was born with powers similar to those of his 
>>  > parents,
>>  > who were talented and fairly powerful wizards but nowhere near
>>  > as
>>  > powerful as Tom Riddle (putting the memory of yourself into a
>>  > diary so
>>  > that you can possess the person who confides in it is no mean
>>  > feat).

>>  One question comes to my mind after reading this thread, and more
>>  especially what you write, Carol : what if « the bit of
>>  Voldemort »
>>  inside Harry was there BEFORE what happened in Godric's Hollow ?
>>  After all, maybe some of Voldemort's powers were left in Harry
>>  because there was already in the boy something special, making him
>>  particularly receptive to them. Something like a "compost" or
>>  an "atavism"; I don't know.
>>  I don't like precisely that idea, and moreover it is not already
>>  very clear, I need to consider it better; but I wonder if Harry
>>  wasn't "partly Voldemort" even before the Dark Lord tried to kill
>>  him.

>>  Just a supposition, probably completely out of topic,

>>  Amicalement,

>>  Iris

Now confusinglyso, Phil,

Why did Voldemort see himself in Harry ?
Chamber of Secrets, Tom Riddle comments on Harry's
likeness to himself.
Throughout the books we are reminded how alike Harry is
to his dad, James Potter.
Therefore James Potter and Tom Riddle must have been alike.
James Potter defied Voldemort 3 times and so must have been
known to Voldemort.

Would this reasoning explain why TR!LV chose Harry ?
Is there a family connection ?
Could a family connection, putting a bit of Voldemort in Harry,
support Iris and Kneasy above ?

Phil, first post in a long while.