The Second Prophecy plus a correction

scoutmom21113 navarro198 at hotmail.com
Tue Nov 16 15:00:06 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 117981


theadimail wrote:
Remember the prophecy was delivered by Sybil Trelawney. The 
conventional thinking at the time was that Sirius was the servant of 
Voldemort, so when she had the intimation of the future she 
described the servant in terms refering to Sirius. But it turns out 
to be that the servant of Voldemort did escape but he was not 
Sirius. This makes the delivery of prophecies interesting. I think 
even though they are delivered in a fit of impulse they are also 
clouded by the seer's present day knowledge. If this premise is 
true, it could prove to be interesting development in the theory of 
prophecies that the fandom has so lustily developed.

Kneasy:
Quite so.
It do make it fun the way opinion swings back and forth, but the 
sympathy engendered by the veil incident has generally tilted the 
balance in Sirius' favour and even more against Peter. I'm just 
giving it a nudge back the other way.

Bookworm:
Kneasy's theory has a certain logic by itself.  The problem I 
have with ESE!Sirius and ESE!Lupin theories is James.  Was he such a 
bad judge of character that -two- of his best friends went over to 
Voldemort?  Especially one who was like a brother to him?  It is 
obvious that Peter has now even if there may have been questions 
about his role as Secret-Keeper.  Despite circumstantial evidence, I 
just don't believe Lupin is evil.  Sirius was to James as Ron is
to Harry.  (I don't believe Ron will turn either.)  McGonagall 
equated them to the twins, who are rarely - if ever- seen alone.  
Sirius was furious with Peter because Peter gave in to his fear 
instead of fighting to the death to protect his friends.  With that 
kind of characterization, it just doesn't make sense that Sirius 
would betray James or Harry.

That said, the way Sirius is portrayed encouraging Harry to take 
risks in OoP is so opposite from his cautiousness in GoF there seems 
to be a disconnect somewhere.  In GoF he was in hiding but was on 
his own.  In OoP he was stuck back in the house he detested with 
horrible reminders of his family.  Is that enough to cause the 
change?  The Weasleys were helping him clean out the rooms.  We know 
he could get his money from Gringotts.  After the kids went back to 
school, he apparently didn't have much to do - why not completely 
redecorate?  Or is it, as a friend has suggested, a "guy 
thing" to ignore their physical surroundings even if they were 
driving him crazy?

Kneasy:
I grovel.

Bookworm:
Now there's an image to consider ;-)

Ravenclaw Bookworm 
<who wonders why we refer to James and Sirius by first names, but 
Lupin by his last name>







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