The Second Prophecy / the number 12

Kathryn Jones kjones at telus.net
Tue Nov 16 22:21:03 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 118040


> Kneasy wrote:
>
> Voldy wants the Prophecy globe; how would an agent help there? By
> claiming sole guardian rights over Harry. By encouraging Harry's
> rashness. By influencing Harry against Snape's Occlumency. Or by
> being deliberately ambiguous (or by being deliberately *not*
> ambiguous) to Kreacher. Or by making sure that you'll be noticed by
> Malfoy while animaging about Kings Cross against the wishes of
> everybody with an ounce of sense. Passing a message? "Yes, I'm
> around; yes I'm close to Harry." Useful stuff for the Voldy clique.


      Kathy writes:
          I like to vote for Sirius as well because of the second 
prophecy and JKR's continual use of the number 12.  At the Leaky 
Cauldron, Percy was staying in room *#12*. Page 52 PoA.  In OotP it 
states that Snape has been teaching for 14 years.  In PoA he has 
therefore been teaching for *12* years.  Pg. 238, the prophecy states 
the "servant has been chained these *12* years.  Pg 267, Ron says that 
Scabbers has been in his family for years.  Lupin answers "*Twelve* 
years, in fact"  On pg 270, Peter says that he has been waiting for 
Sirius to come after him for *12* years.  On the same page, Sirius 
repeats it when he says "You haven't been hiding from me for *12* 
years."  On the same page, Lupin has difficulty understanding why an 
innocent man would live as a rat for *12* years. On page 271, Black 
states that Voldemort has been in hiding for *12* years. Mr. Weasley 
stated on the same page that Sirius had had *12* years alone in Azkaban.
       
            The prediction stated "tonight...*before midnight.*..the 
servant...will set out...to rejoin...his master..."
 When Dumbledore locks the door to the hospital wing, he specifically 
gives the time of "** *five minutes to midnight*", on page 288.  As 
Sirius would have escaped on Buckbeak by then, it fits with the 
prophecy.  No time is given for Peter's escape other than logically 
speaking, it was well before midnight. On page 305, Dumbledore again 
repeats that it is *five minutes to midnight* as he prepares to lock the 
door for the second time.  On page 54, it mentions that *Fudge*, who is 
more than a little suspicious, went to Azkaban the night Sirius escaped.   
On page 266, Sirius describes how *Fudge* gave him the newspaper with the picture of Peter in it as a rat.  I wonder if Fudge visited *all *of the 
Azkaban prisoners.  Doesn't seem likely.

I believe that Peter may well be the same kind of red herring that Snape 
was in the first book.  It doesn't seem to me that Peter is cast in 
stone as "the spy".  There is too much repitition here to just disregard 
it.  Also, in OotP, Sirius was hit with a red flash, which would appear 
to be a stunning spell, by Bellatrix.  This seems to be a rather harmless 
sort of spell for a DE be using to disable a member of the Order.  It will 
be interesting to find out.
                                                                                        
KJ







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