The Second Prophecy -- Differences between book and film)

inkling108 inkling108 at yahoo.com
Wed Nov 17 22:46:48 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 118082


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "annemehr" <annemehr at y...> 
wrote:
> I'm just wondering if we can add another name to the possibilities 
for
> the first prophecy. I mean, Barty Crouch, Jr.  Here's something he
> says in GoF, "Veritaserum":
> 
> "Tell me about the Quidditch World Cup," said Dumbledore.
> 
> "Winky talked my father into it," said Crouch, still in the same
> monotonous voice.  "She spent months persuading him[...] But Winky
> didn't know that I was growing stronger.  I was starting to fight 
my
> father's Imperius curse.  There were times when I was almost myself
> again.  There were brief periods when I seemed outside his control.
[...]"
> 
> So, some months before the Quidditch World Cup in late August, 
Barty
> began breaking the "chains" of his father's control.  A night in 
June,
> perhaps?  Admittedly, it would be a honking great coincidence if it
> began shortly before midnight on the very same day that Peter and
> Sirius escaped Hogwarts...

This also occurred to me, as Crouch Jr. is the only likely suspect 
who is really in chains (albeit psychological chains) as the 
prophecy is spoken, Peter being free to run around as a rat and 
Sirius being on the lam...

I realize that this thread has meanwhile gone in another direction 
from the prophecy as such, but it may be a relevant point that in 
the film version of PoA the wording of the second prophecy was 
changed.  Obviously they could not do that without JKR's approval, 
and the changes that were made might shed some light on this whole 
issue.  Not yet having access to the DVD I can't quote the film 
version exactly but I do recall that a line was added something 
like "blood will be shed."  There was no blood shed the night of the 
Shreiking Shack scene, so it's obviously referring to some other 
event (the murders of Crouch's father or Bertha Jorkins?  Taking 
blood from Harry to assist Voldemort's resurrection?) Does anyone 
recall exactly what changes were made?   







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