Did DD lie about the Prophecy? / Sirius

[delwynmarch]

No: HPFGUIDX 118161


I, Del, wrote previously :
"2.2. Sirius cracks under torture and reveals that Peter is the SK.
After that, all LV has to do is grab Peter, and he will obtain the
Secret very easily, even if Peter is a good guy.

I still fail to see how the SK switch was such a brilliant idea."

Finwitch replied : 
"You forgot something: LV is a Legilimens. He could use that with 
Sirius for the secret while torturing him. However, he can't find it,
 because Sirius isn't the SK. He may stubbornly go on with Sirius and
 get nowhere."

Del replies :
Using Legilimency, he could perfectly find out that Sirius is NOT the
SK, in which case he would then look for information about who the SK
is, and find out about Peter.

Whether LV would have used torture or Legilimency doesn't change the
fact that he would have found about Peter, in time.

Finwitch wrote :
"Sirius' capture itself would have alerted the Order (who of course 
knew where Potters were, and thought Sirius was the SK)"

Del replies :
Only the SK can tell other people about the Secret. So unless Peter
used the paper trick (writing the Secret on a piece of paper) and made
it look like it was Sirius who wrote it, there's no way anyone could
know about the Secret without also knowing that the real SK was Peter.

Finwitch wrote :
" and they could have *moved* in time. So, Voldemort hears the Secret,
about where Potters live, too LATE. They have already gone to
Hogwarts/HQ of the Order/someplace else, this time with Dumbledore as SK."

Del replies :
You're making 2 assumptions :
1. that Sirius's absence would have been noticed right away. That
would imply that all the members kept in close contact, which is not
something we were ever told. In fact, according to Sirius, nobody
noticed that *Peter* had disappeared, until Sirius went to check on him.
2. that it would have taken forever for LV to get the truth out of
Sirius. As far as we know, Sirius is no Occlumens, and he is very
easily ruled by his emotions. According to Snape, that would make him
a very easy prey for LV.

Del