Plot in OotP (wand confusion)
nkafkafi
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Mon Nov 22 20:29:54 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 118341
> > Pippin:
> > I know two Wormtails sounds unlikely, but just imagine that GoF
> > had come out as a serial. Would you have been prepared to
> > believe after The Egg and The Eye chapter that 'Bartemius
> > Crouch' wasn't the Ministry official we had met, but another
> > character we hadn't even heard of so far? And yet, if someone
> > had asked, "Was it really Barty Crouch that Harry saw burgling
> > Snape's office?" what would JKR have answered except,
> > "Correct."
>
> Nora:
> Correct me if I'm wrong, Pippin, because I'm away from my books--
but
> doesn't Sirius mention that Barty Crouch Sr. sent his own son to
> jail, in the conversation in the cave? And talk about how he
didn't
> last long, but died? So, in a sense, we've been set up--what is
the
> sneaky revelation is that Barty Jr. is still alive, and has been
> smuggled out. This comes after The Egg and the Eye, so in a sense,
> there we've been GIVEN the information we need--we just don't know
> what we have.
>
> It's sneaky, yes, but it's also been *explicitly* prepared, so that
> when the true answer comes to light, we have something to flash
back
> to, something very very definite which has become fully
> comprehensible, and go "Oh..."
>
> Now, if you'd like to cite me where, textually, this is explicitly
> and clearly done for Wormtail!Lupin, I would love to see it so that
> I can be prepared for the ultimate revelation. :)
Neri:
Nora mentioned that in the "Barty Crouch" case JKR gave us a clue.
I'd add that JKR also gave us the riddle. That is, Harry saw the
name "Barty Crouch" in the map visiting Snape's office, and the
question "what did Barty Crouch do in Snape's office" was presented
to the reader as a mystery to be solved. But in the Wormtail!Lupin
case, not only we don't have a clue, we don't even have the riddle.
Pippin actually suggests that JKR has arranged for Lupin to be also
called Wormtail, only in order to cover the off chance that a fan
will ask her in a chat "did Wormtail kill Cedric?" and she will be
able to answer him "correct!"
And what would have happened if this fan had asked her "did Peter
kill Cedric" or "did Pettigrew kill Cedric"? Did she also prepare
some backstory to cover these possibilities?
Or perhaps the fan who asked this question was JKR's agent?!
Looks like the conspiracy theories start leaking from the plot into
RW.
Neri
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