Plot in OotP (wand confusion)

Geoff Bannister gbannister10 at aol.com
Tue Nov 23 07:46:06 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 118396


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Renee" <R.Vink2 at c...> wrote:

> Renee:
> I don't recall Sirius using Crouch Jr's first name either, but I 
> don't think it matters, because the analogy is skewed. Sons and 
> fathers or uncles and nephews do have identical names occasionally; 
> certain combinations simply run in certain families. And yes, in a 
> series this size with such large numbers of characters it's only 
> realistic if a few completely unrelated characters have the same, 
> fairly common family name. That JKR admitted Mark wasn't surnamed 
> Evans on purpose doesn't really matter here.


Geoff:
It was quite common until just a few years ago for the eldest child 
to carry on a family tradition like this, which can be very 
confusing. In a family I know very well, the eldest son was, for at 
least four generations, Walter John, until the fourth put his foot 
down and refused to go with the flow for the sake of the latest child 
in the family and he didn't repeat this with his children either.



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> (unless Wormtail is a common surname in Britain, of 
> course.) 


Geoff:
Which it isn't.


> Renee:
> My uneducated guess would be that Wormtail II is really Wormtongue, 
> magically transported from Middle-earth to the Potterworld. Harry 
> simply misunderstood his name or stopped listening after *Worm-*, 
> and JKR put him in to be able to pay homage to J.R.R. Tolkien once 
> he comes out into the open in all his sneaky glory... 


Geoff:
I love this idea. There is some canon evidence for this. :-))

Wormtongue's real name is Grima. So he is obviously the Grim and he 
lives at Grima-uld Place.

And Dumbledore is a transported Gandalf?

There, how's that to back up Renee's new conspiracy theory?

Geoff
http://www.aspectsofexmoor.com








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