Two Wormtails was Re: Plot in OotP (wand confusion)

justcarol67 justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Wed Nov 24 00:57:29 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 118454


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Magda Grantwich
<mgrantwich at y...> wrote:
> 
> --- justcarol67 <justcarol67 at y...> wrote:
> 
> > Carol responds:
> > It was James who
> > insisted on Sirius despite Dumbledore's objections and Sirius who
> > insisted on Peter, a change that DD apparently didn't know about.
> > There's no criminal irresponsibility involved since he had no
> > control
> > over the situation. He no longer had the authority to "allow" or
> > forbid MWPP or Lily to do anything. They were out of school and of
> > age to make their own decisions, right or wrong.
> > 
> > Carol
> 
> 
Magda responded:
> Well, Dumbledore was the head of the Order and by becoming members of
> the Order, the Potters and Sirius had at least tacitly agreed to
> follow his lead, if not his actual orders.  One of my concerns about
> the whole SK business was how Sirius and (apparently) James didn't
> realize how it affected everyone else as well.  By joining the Order,
> they should have realized that their "private" lives weren't quite
> their own anymore.

Carol again:
Well, true, and I did consider putting something about this in my
original post. But in this instance, DD wasn't acting as the head of
the Order. He wasn't sending the Potters out on a mission as he sends
Sirius Black and Snape and various other people out on missions near
the end of GoF.

He was offering *himself* for the risky and dangerous position of
Secret Keeper for the Potters, and it was James's right (and Lily's)
to choose someone else. Dumbledore could not force himself on the
Potters as their Secret Keeper, if only because someone else
(presumably Lily) had to cast the Fidelius Charm. He couldn't cast it
on himself, at least not without their leave. Nor would he have done
so if he could, believing as he does in the importance of choice. All
he could do was to warn James that one of his friends was about to
betray him and that he had reason to believe it might be Sirius. James
refused to believe evil of his best friend and left Dumbledore
believing that Sirius would be the Secret Keeper. Unfortunately, he
either didn't or couldn't inform him of the later change in plans.

Carol







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