Lupin's secrets was Re: Two Wormtails

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Wed Nov 24 20:34:53 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 118523


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, 
olivier.fouquet+harry at m... wrote:

> Is Lupin ambiguous? Well, maybe he is, but the
>   least we can say is that the non subversive way to read him is 
the   calm, quiet, intellectual guy with a certain talent for human 
relation   that
> 
>   He's the one that finds the words to tell Harry just enough 
about   Voldemort, he seems very close to both Sirius and Molly 
and he is   obviously trusted by Moody and Tonks (look down all 
the references of  Moody and Lupin talking about Order 
business). He's courageous, saving  Harry's life twice and 
Neville's life once during the battle.
> 
<snip>
> 
>   Maybe Lupin will turn out to be evil, maybe he will be a traitor 
to the  Order, just like Peter was the first time. However, to say 
that this is   the natural way to read the character seems to me to 
be an incredible   stretch.


Pippin:

It depends on whether you think you are reading a mystery. If so, 
and you accept the author's invitation to play detective, it then 
becomes your business to keep your wits about you and 
suspect everyone, especially innocent-seeming people who 
have secrets. 

Lupin's secrets are not all exposed at the end of PoA, nor is it 
true that no additional ones are introduced in OOP. We  do not 
know:

1)how he could have misjudged the time he would transform
2) why his friends thought he was a spy
3) the extent of his knowledge about dementors
4) why he seems able to read Harry's mind, and to block 
Snape's attempts to read his own
5) why his boggart  is still referred to as a silvery orb in OOP if
it is supposed to be the full moon
6) where that case with Professor RJ Lupin on it came from
7) what he was doing between the disaster at Godric's Hollow 
and PoA. 
8) what he is doing for the Order

That is an awful lot of blank space for one character. Only Snape 
has as much ambiguity and mystery about him, and nobody 
considers *him* above suspicion, though many hope he will 
prove to be.
.

We agree that  Lupin is an occlumens and a legilimens. How did 
he learn and who taught him? It doesn't seem to be the kind of 
thing you can learn from books. It also isn't some freakish ability 
of  werewolves, whatever Snape thinks: FBAWTFT says that a 
werewolf has the mind of a sane and normal human, except 
when transformed.

Pippin









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