bullies? twins, padfoot and prongs

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 118539


Ces attributed the following quotes to me:

Carol responds:
> > This part I agree with completely.

Carol notes:
I did write this sentence.

Quote continues:
[> > On the other hand, Snape's bullying behavior may have begun at
first as retaliation for the nasty way Sirius and James had treated
him for being ugly, odd, greasy, etc.] 

Carol again:
The bracketed words, snipped by Ces, are Kim's. (I would never call
Snape ugly. Granted, he should wash his hair and bleach his teeth, but
an aquiline nose could be considered aristocratic, and the adult Snape
 is no longer skinny and round-shouldered. . . . I digress.)
> 
Quote resumes:
> ...all speculating at this point. I think that Sirius, for example,
associated Severus with what he hated about his own home and family,
which (for me) explains his vindictiveness. He may even have projected
that hatred of the Dark Arts onto James as an explanation of why he
disliked Severus. But James seems to be entertaining himself (and
Sirius) by bullying Severus in the Pensieve scene. He dislikes him,
certainly, but he doesn't seem to share Sirius's virulent hatred.

Carol again:
Okay, these are my words (snipped by Ces) 
> 
Ces wrote:
> But what about the remark that James made to Lily about Severus just 
> existing?  That would seem to be a remark to come more from Sirius 
> than James, if Black does hate Severus more than James did. 
Whatever did Severus do to James to make a remark like that?

Carol responds:
I don't think we can assume from James's words that Severus did
anything. It seems like a feeble excuse to me--and to Lily as well,
apparently. Even if Severus deserved James's dislike, and I see no
indication *in this scene* that he did, he certainly didn't deserve an
unprovoked attack by two opponents who caught him off guard. And no
one deserves to be attacked "because they exist."

Carol, requesting that posters be a bit more careful in their snipping
and attributions