Lupin's secrets was Re: Two Wormtails

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No: HPFGUIDX 118553


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" 
<dumbledore11214 at y...> wrote:
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> 
> Alla:
> 
> Thanks for the quotes, Jen. Yes, I would say that the first one 
> especially supports Legilimens!Lupin.
> 
> But as you said, it does not necessarily mean ESE!Lupin. 
Personally. 
> I am inclined to believe that remus was one of Order insider spyes, 
> just as Snape was.
> 
> Who knows, maybe Remus WAS approached by Voldemort agents for 
> recruitment and maybe he agreed because Dumbledore asked him to. I 
> just think that suspicion of him being a spy must have been based 
on 
> SOME mistake. Maybe James or Sirius witnessed remus meeting with 
> suspicious people and mistrust went from there.

What I have to say relates both to Lupin being a possible spy within 
the DEs group, and to Lupin being a spy within his own group (i.e., a 
traitor):

IT'S REDUNDANT!!!!

Apologies for yelling. But really - this is not a spy novel, a Le 
Carre type of story. What on earth would it add to the STORY to have 
both Pettigrew and Lupin spies for Voldemort? Or both Snape and Lupin 
spies for DD? It makes sense when that's the focus of the tale - 
espionage, the shifting perception of reality, the inability to fully 
trust anyone. Surely it is clear that that is not what HP is about? 
These issues are minor, elements JKR uses to enhance the tension and 
pace of the story - but they are not what the story is *about*. 
There is no constantly underlying question of whether people (as a 
general rule) can be trusted - as a general rule, people are what 
they seem. In fact, it's remarkable how basically unchanged everybody 
is since PS - the Durseleys, Hagrid, DD, Hermione, Ron, the Weasleys, 
etc. - all the people in Harry's life are pretty much what they have 
always been. If there have been changes, it's development, that is 
change that is compatible with the point of origin. 
JKR is simply not interested in the deep question of whether you can 
ever really know somebody else. She doesn't deal with it. The large 
majority of the characters she creates are adequetly known - both to 
the reader and to Harry. Since that's not a real issue for her, it 
makes no sense for the resolution of this story to involve the 
revelation of such deep deceit [this argument, by the way, is also 
relevant for all puppet master!DD types of theories]. 
Further, if we're talking ESE!Lupin theory, that would make half of 
Harry's father's group of best friends traitors. Again, not 
compatible with the underlying feel of the books that people, 
generally, are trustworthy.


Naama