Another Flint? (Was: When?)
justcarol67
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Sun Nov 28 18:39:13 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 118713
Hannah wrote:
> The problem I have with the idea that maybe Harry's been
> imperio'd at some other time without knowing it, is that the
> narrative is from Harry's point of view. If Harry didn't know he'd
> been imperio'd (and I'm sure we'd have heard about it if he did),
> then I don't think the narrator would either. Also, if Harry had
> felt that mind-numbing sensation at any point during canon, it would
> have said as much, I think.
> <snip>
>> It also depends on the interpretation. With the veela thing, I
> don't think anyone's sugggesting that they are actually
> using 'imperio,' just that their presence naturally exerts a similar
> effect, at least on men. Does JKR mean he's felt that specific
> spell's effect on three occasions, or is she referring to the mind-
> numbing feeling in general? Or is she just having trouble with her
> maths again?
>
> Although the conspiracy therorist in me hates to admit it, I think
> the 'three times' must be a FLINT.
Carol responds:
I agree that the passage describes the sensation--not so much
mind-numbing as blissfully happy and unaware of anything except that
feeling--rather than to the actual experience of being Imperio'd. I'm
wondering whether someone with a little more time on his or her hands
will present the three passages together for comparison (the Veelas,
the first Imperio by Crouch!Moody, and the Imperio by Voldemort). If
the sensation is virtually identical, then I would guess that's what
JKR meant by "for the third time in his life." Otherwise, I think it's
a Flint. I certainly can't think of any point at which Harry does
something out of character in a similarly euphoric state. And it's
interesting that he's less susceptible to the Veelas than Ron is, just
as he's less susceptible to the Imperious Curse (possibly one of the
"powers" he acquired from Voldemort?).
Speaking of Flints, has anyone wondered how the Dementors could bury
the polyjuiced Mrs. Crouch if they're blind? And I half-recall a
passage in GoF in which Hermione, who is usually right about such
things, refers to them as if they're able to see through an
invisibility cloak. (Can anyone find and quote that passage?) I wonder
if the blindness of the Dementors is something JKR attributed to them
late in the game, not realizing that OoP would contradict GoF.
Carol, wondering how the Dementors would have recognized Sirius Black
if they can't see
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