bullies? twins, padfoot and prongs

M.Clifford Aisbelmon at hotmail.com
Mon Nov 29 00:54:43 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 118744



> > Alla:
I see no reason to exclude his hate of DA as ONE of the reasons for 
such bullying.
> 
> Carol notes:
> 
> We really have no evidence that the Pensieve incident was anything
> other than unjustifiable bullying. It *may* have an underlying
> ideological basis, but we haven't seen it yet, and having a good
> reason for disliking Severus does not give James and Sirius the 
right to attack and humiliate him. Nor would he have the right to 
attack and humiliate either of them if the tables were turned.
> 

Valky:
We have ample indication that the basis of James dislike of Severus 
was idealogical, plenty of evidence that James and Sirius were 
idealistic boys. I see reason to follow an assumption that the 
bullying was *NOT justified by* but related somehow to the 
idealogical principles that James and Sirius upheld in their own 
minds, but no reason *AT ALL* to assume that such thinking did not 
apply to them or was not pertinent in their day to day reality. 

Basically the only canon that supports James and Sirius having no 
motive but hateful bullying for its own sake are Harry's and Lily's 
*outsider* POV and a vague reproval in hindsight by Remus. That's 
all anyone can base an assumption on, that there was nothing more to 
it. It's quite thin really.

On a second note since you speak of turning tables, what reason does 
Snape have to *curse* James at *every* opportunity. Is his attacking 
of James justifiable?








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