bullies? twins, padfoot and prongs
M.Clifford
Aisbelmon at hotmail.com
Mon Nov 29 00:54:43 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 118744
> > Alla:
I see no reason to exclude his hate of DA as ONE of the reasons for
such bullying.
>
> Carol notes:
>
> We really have no evidence that the Pensieve incident was anything
> other than unjustifiable bullying. It *may* have an underlying
> ideological basis, but we haven't seen it yet, and having a good
> reason for disliking Severus does not give James and Sirius the
right to attack and humiliate him. Nor would he have the right to
attack and humiliate either of them if the tables were turned.
>
Valky:
We have ample indication that the basis of James dislike of Severus
was idealogical, plenty of evidence that James and Sirius were
idealistic boys. I see reason to follow an assumption that the
bullying was *NOT justified by* but related somehow to the
idealogical principles that James and Sirius upheld in their own
minds, but no reason *AT ALL* to assume that such thinking did not
apply to them or was not pertinent in their day to day reality.
Basically the only canon that supports James and Sirius having no
motive but hateful bullying for its own sake are Harry's and Lily's
*outsider* POV and a vague reproval in hindsight by Remus. That's
all anyone can base an assumption on, that there was nothing more to
it. It's quite thin really.
On a second note since you speak of turning tables, what reason does
Snape have to *curse* James at *every* opportunity. Is his attacking
of James justifiable?
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