Trusting characters Re: bullies? twins, padfoot and prongs

[cubfanbudwoman]

No: HPFGUIDX 118853


SSSusan:
> > Actually, I don't really care what kind of good Sirius could 
> > have done or not done; I'm merely spouting off about what I 
> > think Sirius himself might have been thinking.  Some posters 
> > have been arguing that Sirius' case as presented makes no sense -
> > - that he must've been in on a double-cross of James & Lily -- 
> > or that he was a coward.  I'm trying to show an alternative way 
> > of looking at his actions which might bring us to a different 
> > conclusion.
 
Magda: 
> I don't think anyone really believes that he was evil or a
> double-crosser or a coward.  And his case as presented does make
> sense and all of his actions are very much in character.   


SSSusan:
Oh, but some do believe this!  Several posters have proposed ESE!
Sirius and even just within the last couple of day's worth of posts 
folks have talked about what a coward he was--saying he *pretended* 
to be willing to die for his friends but actually setting Peter up 
to be killed while he [Sirius] could run & hide.  In fact, it was 
this outlook which caused me to protest that there was another way 
to interpret what Sirius was doing on the night of GH.


Magda:
> So I find it quite easy to believe that Sirius would propose - and
> James would accept - the SK switching scheme (the SKSS for short). 
> Personally I think the idea was bad from the start even if Peter
> hadn't been a traitor: it strikes me as a short-term plan that 
> would have been unsustainable in the long run....  
> Not to mention Voldemort's talents as a Legilimens (which 
> Dumbledore would have known about through Snape if no other way) 
> which would have got the truth out of either of them had Voldemort 
> caught either Peter or Sirius.  
> 
> So Sirius didn't think through all the possible ramifications of 
> his actions - just like he didn't think through all the 
> ramifications of the Prank with all the bad things that would have 
> happened to Remus, Dumbledore and Snape had James not intervened.


SSSusan:
Yup, we're together on this.  I think not thinking through all 
possible ramifications of one's actions is a "talent" Sirius shared 
with Harry!  And I think Sirius had a worse case of it that Harry 
does. 


Magda: 
> These are not signs that Sirius was evil or a double-crosser.  They
> are signs that the same traits that made him a fun friend and great
> guy to have along on an illicit adventure were the exact same 
> traits that would take him straight into the jaws of a beautifully 
> executed trap.

SSSusan:
Yup, we agree again.  This is precisely how I see Sirius.  So my 
argument was less with you than with those who do see Sirius as 
cowardly or ESE!  At worst I see him as The Other Cheryl presented 
him earlier:  ESS!Sirius [EverSoStupid!Sirius]. :-)

Siriusly Snapey Susan