Lucius - Full blood (was The [Real] Importance of being Draco Malfoy)

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No: HPFGUIDX 114314

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "onnanokata" <averyhaze at h...> 
wrote:
> samnanya wrote:
> 
> I wonder if JKR will suprise us all and have Draco Malfoy
> turn out to be the Half-Blood Prince.  We know that his
> mother's line is pure because of the Blacks, but precious
> little is said about Lucius' ancestry......
> JKR has already said that pureblood is not necessary to
> be a Death Eater.
> At the end of GOF (706)  Fudge responds to Harry's
> allegation that Lucius Malfoy was a Death Eater by saying
> "Malfoy was cleared! ... A very old family -"
> Hmmm I ownder why the word "wizard" or "wizarding" was
> not added as it was in so many other places.
> Not much yet to go on, but isn't that what suprises are all 
> about? If you don't think so, please provide CANON evidence 
> that Lucius is indeed pureblooded........
>  
> kmc provides the cannon:
> Page 113, OotP, Hardback, American version Chapter Six (emphasis 
mine)
>  
> "He pointed to another samll round burn mark between two names, 
> Bellatrix and Narcissa."'Andromeda's sisters are still her because 
> they made lovely, respectable PURE-BLOOD marriages,' 
> <snip>
> "Sirius mimed blasting the tapestry with a wand and laughed 
sourly.  
> Harry, however, did not laugh; he was too busy staring at the names 
> to the right of Andromeda's burn mark.  A double line of gold 
> embrodidery linked Narcissa Black with LUCIUS MALFOY, and a single 
> vertical gold line from their names led to the name Draco."
>  
> Cannon - Lucius is full-blood as is Draco.
> 
> BTW - When I first heard the title of book six, I was pulling for 
> Draco to be half-blood.  But, alas, this is not support by cannon.
>  
> - kmc
> 
> Dharma replies:
> 
> I personally do not believe that it is impossible for Witches and 
> Wizards who believe they are purebloods to find out that such is 
not 
> the case.  There are characters who hold some pretty important 
facts 
> to be true, only to find out that they are just plain wrong.  Canon 
> often reflects what the characters know, until it is the right time 
> in the plot to reveal the truth, or another character has a reason 
to 
> present to appropriate information.
> 
> -Sirius believes that Peter could not be a spy for 2 or so years, 
> only to discover the truth at the cost the Potters' lives.  
> 
> -Remus and Dumbledore believe Sirius to be a spy and murderer for 
> more than a decade, until they are witness the impossible.  
> 
> -Most of Hogwarts seems to be under the impression that Trelawney 
has 
> no Sight, but that is not the case.  She makes very accurate 
> predictions regularly.  She only has two known prophesies under 
belt, 
> but her predictions work out.
>   
> -Bellatrix is unable to accept that Voldemort is not a pureblood 
> wizard even though she is given information to the contrary.   
Barty 
> Jr. knows so why doesn't she?
> 
> -Harry believes that Mrs. Figg is just an older Muggle woman in his 
> neighborhood.  
> 
> -Almost every member of the Wizarding community, including Sirius 
who 
> was imprisoned with him, believed that Barty Crouch Jr. was dead.
> 
> Canon suggests to us that "pureblood" families would start 
disowning 
> members if they stepped out of line.  This to me sets up the 
perfect 
> scenario for some family mythology.  Hiding facts, telling lies and 
> ignoring evidence have been done commonly in history to 
> maintain "noble" family reputations.  We do have canon to suggest 
> that there are Wizards who would willingly lie and scheme to 
protect 
> their children (see Mr. and Mrs. Crouch). If there is one 
> illegitimate child somewhere in a family history, or a not so 
> publicized marriage, it's not too difficult for a pureblood Wizard 
to 
> be come a half blood Wizard.  
> 
> Narcissa's phenotype comes to mind on this one.  She might have 
> gotten all of those recessive features from the Black line.  But 
then 
> again, we only know what Sirius knows about that part of the 
family, 
> and for me the information is not very complete.  Her mother's 
family 
> is never discussed.  If it only takes one Muggle or Muggleborn 
Wizard 
> in an individuals lineage to alter one's pureblood status and canon 
> only reflects what the characters believe to be factual, then we 
> could be in for some surprises.
> 
> With that said
I'm not sure who the HBP is, but it could be 
> interesting if it did turn out to be a character who is under an 
> erroneous/incomplete impression about his family history.  That 
could 
> lead to some very interesting developments in books 6 and 7.

kmc again:

The challenge was to provide cannon that Malfoy was pure-blood.  
Consider that Mrs. Black blasted off every member of the family who 
did not conform to the her ideals of pure-blood.  I see the marriage 
between Lucius and Narcissa more as the proper thing to do - maybe 
even an arranged marriage.  As has been stated, there aren't a lot of 
choices if you are only going to let your sons and daughters marry 
pure blood wizards.  It may be why Narcissa looks like there is "a 
nasty smell under her nose."  She had to go to the Quidditch Cup with 
Lucius.

One of the girls in my youth group and I were discussing the Draco as 
half-blood prince on a recent car ride.  I was arguing for him being 
the HBP and she was able to counter everyone of my "dreams" with 
cannon. We discussed affairs, a hidden Mugggle in ancestory.  She 
used the arguments I posted here for the hidden Muggle. 

I argued that maybe Narcissa had a Muggle in her background that was 
hidden from the Black family but she pointed out that Kreacher did 
not take orders from half-blood Tonks.  He would not run to Narcissa 
if she was Half-blood.

As to Lucius not being Draco's biological father - Lucius and Draco 
have the same features and coloring.  That Harry recognizes him as 
Draco's father in COS.  

Much as I would have loved to see Draco be the HBP, I have to admit 
she convinced me that it was impossible.  

I used to hope there will be a showdown between Draco and Harry in 
the books but now I don't see that as a possible.  Harry has battled 
adult DEs - if Draco tries to stand in Harry's way, Draco better 
bring the entire Slytherin House not just Crabbe and Goyle.   

-kmc