C!M and Imperius (was: How did Snape know?)

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 114342

Yb wrote:
> ...and we know C!M is a VERY powerful wizard
> 
> Ravenclaw Bookworm responded:
> What makes you say this?  About the only things we know about 
> Crounch Junior is that he was sent to Azkaban for being part of the 
> group that tortured the Longbottoms and he was under the Imperious 
> Curse for 12 years.  We don't know how much he actually contributed 
> in the torture. And as you pointed out, it took him years to throw 
> off the curse.  
> 
> Dumbledore says it would take a powerful wizard to confuse the 
> Goblet.  I just wonder how much of Real!Moody's powers he had access 
> to, and how much help he might have had from Bagman or someone 
> else. <snip>

Carol notes:
Actually, it was Crouch!Moody himself who said it would take a
powerful wizard to confuse the goblet.

"Imagining things, am I?" growled Moody. "Seeing things, eh? It was a
skilled witch or wizard who put the boy's name in that goblet. . . "

"Ah, what evidence is zere of zat?" said Madame Maxime, throwing up
her huge hands.

"Because they hoodwinked a very powerful magical object!" said Moody.
"It would have needed an exceptionally strong Confundus Charm to
bamboozle that goblet into forgetting that only three schools competed
in the tournament. . . ." (379)

IMO, he's telling them exactly what he did himself while leading them
to believe that he's talking about someone else. And he's also
congratulating himself on his skill (though the others don't know
that, of course).

As for whether this view of himself is accurate, I think yb's response
re his use of the Unforgiveable Curses, transfiguring his body into a
bone, etc. is pretty persuasive. (I made a similar argument in another
post but I don't know the message number. I think it was in the thread
about whether Crouch Jr. was a DE in VWI. I say there's no question
that he was; otherwise he couldn't have learned the Unforgiveable
Curses. Evil little git fooled everybody!)

Carol