Snape and Harry again.
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Fri Oct 1 13:35:48 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 114364
> Kethryn said:
>
> 1. In the Sorcerer's Stone, all those "chats" Snape had with
Quirrel are bugging me.
> <snip>
> If Snape knew that Voldemort was leeching on Quirrel, then I'm
not sure that he would have even talked to Quirrel, not if he
wanted to protect his identity as a double agent.<
Quirrell tells us that he knew it was Snape who had interfered
with his jinx, and that Snape had threatened him, but he doesn't
tell us what rationale Snape presented for doing it. We don't
know what Snape said between "You know perfectly well what I
mean" and "--your little bit of hocus-pocus. I'm waiting."
It could have been "You're trying to steal the Stone, but you won't
succeed. Not without my help. You want Potter out of the way?
Cut me in on the deal and next time I won't interfere with--"
Since Quirrell did not tell Snape that he had Lord Voldemort on
his side, Snape's loyalty to Voldemort was not in question.
>
> Dungrollin rolls up her sleeves:
>
> As I see it, there are 4 possibilities:
> (I suspect that someone has already gone through this before
> 1. ESE!Snape
> 2. MoralConversion!Snape
>
> 3. ReluctantlyGood!Snape
>
> 4. Oscar-winner!Snape
Pippin:
I see Snape as a combination of all four, with a measure of Ally's
Vengeance-driven!Snape as well, though I think Rowling is
saving a true moral conversion for the end.
I see Snape as someone with a strong sense of justice (and
injustice) but being a true Slytherin, he posits no external set of
values by which to judge. He measures everything against his
internal sense of injury or benefit.
I think Voldemort taught him occlumency with the unintended
consequence that for the first time in his life Snape learned to
control his anger. At that point, the rational side of Snape's
character could assert itself. He began to see that his service to
the Death Eaters was pointless, and that Voldemort was not
interested in obtaining justice for his followers but only in power
for himself.
Snape might have faked his death and disappeared, but he
wanted revenge against Voldemort for manipulating him and
there was still the debt to James. So Snape defected, but
Voldemort got blown away and James got killed before the
debts could be cleared, leaving Snape in a pretty quandary.
How can you pay back a debt to someone who (apparently)
can't be killed? I think Dumbledore assured Snape that
Voldemort would be back and Harry would need Snape's help
someday. So Snape has remained in Dumbledore's service,
because of his very self-interested subjective concept of justice.
That brings us to OscarWinner!Snape. I think Snape is a hard,
cruel bitter man, possibly not entirely human. But he doesn't hate
Harry, or at least we've had some powerful hints that he does
not. Twice, in OOP, Harry thinks he has seen hatred and is
corrected. He's told that Lily didn't hate James and Sirius didn't
hate Kreacher.
I don't believe Snape hates Harry, but he has a real problem
with Harry's attitude, and his sense of injury is magnified by his
frustration and his lingering resentment of James, whom he did
hate and with good reason. As Snape punishes people
commensurate with his sense of injury rather than their crimes,
it's no wonder that he's too harsh with Harry and too soft on his
Slytherins.
It might be objected that Harry didn't have an attitude toward
Snape to start with, but I would counter that before he entered the
first potions class, Harry already believed that Snape didn't like
him, that the pain in his scar had something to do with Snape,
that only Slytherins became dark wizards, that Snape was very
interested in the dark arts, that Slytherins were a hard lot, and
most of all that no decent wizard would want to be in Slytherin
House. It would be amazing if Snape didn't pick up on any of that.
So while Snape is not acting when he is cruel to Harry, I don't
think Harry is correctly interpreting his motives.
On the other hand, I think that Pensieve aside, Snape's capslock
rages are not entirely genuine--the feelings are real, but the
sense he projects of being out of control is an act. The point is
not to intimidate Harry, but to convince Voldemort, through his
proxies, that Snape is still mastered by his rage and easy prey
for the Dark Lord.
Pippin
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