[HPforGrownups] Re: Priori incantatem (Was: Survival of AK)

[kim reynolds]

No: HPFGUIDX 114384

Just Carol wrote:

>> Just a theory, but it explains the absence of a "shadow" for the AK better than the idea that it was some other spell. After all, if the silver hand and the Dark Mark show up as recognizable indicators of the spell cast to create them, then whatever curse Voldemort attempted to put on Harry would also show up in a priori incantatem--unless failed curses of whatever kind leave no record. (It wouldn't show up as a scream because a scream is the record of a Crucio.)<<
 
Kneasy wrote:

>>Two points.

>>It's my contention that PI will show any spell that has a demonstrable physical effect. If an AK was used against Harry at GH it ripped Voldy's spirit from his body - leaving behind a dead body. I'd call that a demonstrable effect, wouldn't you? And since Voldy admits to "pain beyond pain" I'd expect a yelp or two - but there's nothing.

>>But my main point is that I think it didn't show up for the very good reason that it wasn't an AK and probably wasn't even wand magic. I know many don't agree with me but IMO it cuts out the contortions of "how many green flashes, how can a repelled AK transfer powers, why didn't Voldy die?" altogether. Much, much simpler. Only one person ever says it's an AK and how the hell does he know?<<

>>I think that what happened at GH was very like what Voldy tried in the Ministry - a possession.<<
 
Kim here:
 
We're all certainly entitled to our own opinions. But didn't JKR herself say it was a killing curse?  Wouldn't she have the last word?  I just think she confused people with the way she wrote the PI scene in the graveyard.  Maybe she (pardon the term) goofed a little bit, even after she corrected the order of the images that came out of the wand.  Needless to say, I don't think she writes with the fine tooth comb audience (us) foremost in her mind. Her writing isn't always perfect but that doesn't mean it isn't marvelous.   
 
To add to the theory that Voldemort learned some immortality tricks from the vampire crowd, here are some quotes from The Book of Vampires (found it on the Web):

"...and it was in 1443 that the first Nosferatu was born. That name rings out like the cry of a bird of prey. Never speak it aloud..."  (He Who Must Not Be Named...?)

"Living people may also be forced to do their dreadful bidding."   (Death Eaters?)

"One can recognize the mark of the vampire by the trace of his fangs on the victim's throat..."  (the Dark Mark, in a certain sense?)  

"At night, creatures of the Abyss visit homes of the living to sow death and despair." (didn't Voldemort visit GH at night?) 

"Only a woman can break his frightful spell - a woman pure in heart..." (Lily Potter?)

"The monsters, who cannot find peace, must be murdered so that persecuted Mankind may be freed from its nightmare."   (Harry Potter to the rescue!)

Kim




		
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